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Because only 2% of their teachers are male. Thats a massive gender inequality. Speaking seriously, if you want to normalise women in roles where they aren't yo

Because only 2% of their teachers are male. Thats a massive gender inequality. Speaking seriously, if you want to normalise women in roles where they aren't you need to normalise men in roles were they aren't either. If more men go in to teaching, there are more roles for women to take up, or speaking in the inverse - if you exclude men from roles (such as teaching) they need to find jobs elsewhere, and thats usually in positions where men are the majority.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> Because only 2% of their teachers are male. To be fair, they are at almost exactly the national pre-K average there. > Speaking seriously, if you want to normalise women in roles where they aren't you need to normalise men in roles were they aren't either. OTOH, given finite demand in each field, getting more women into high-paying professions that currently are disproportionately male should naturally result in more men in low-paying professions that are currently disproportionately female as a natural consequence.
- imustbeevil 9y ago
  > To be fair, they are at almost exactly the national pre-K average there. And Google's representation of women in software engineering roles is also around the industry average. To your second point, it's not either or. You can both better incentivize women in tech and men in teaching.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > And Google's representation of women in software engineering roles is also around the industry average. Sure. And both scenarios need industry-wide efforts to increase gender equality. But Google is basically an irrelevant factor in the pre-K teaching industry, and a giant one in the software industry. > To your second point, it's not either or. Societally, sure. In the case of particular firms, their ability to impact different fields with the same expenditure of resources is highly dependent on their position in the various fields.
    - kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
      We can talk after the pre-K teaching industry gets non-stop trenchant criticism of the kind that gets levied on the tech industry (not merely suggestive articles) about their massive gender disparity.
      - danso 9y ago
        In the U.S., the executives and managing administrators of school districts skew heavily male, no matter the skew toward females for teachers and curriculum tracts: http://aasa.org/SchoolAdministratorArticle.aspx?id=14492 http://aasa.org/SchoolAdministratorArticle.aspx?id=14492 Is it the case in Silicon Valley that many of the executives are women?
        kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
        Not sure how this is relevant. No one is doubting that executives at all levels and in all industries skew male.
        danso 9y ago
        You’re not sure how relevant it is that men are still in control even in a field where they are vastly outnumbered in the rank and file?

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Because only 2% of their teachers are male. To be fair, they are at almost exactly the national pre-K average there. > Speaking seriously, if you want to normalise women in roles where they aren't you need to normalise men in roles were they aren't either. OTOH, given finite demand in each field, getting more women into high-paying professions that currently are disproportionately male should naturally result in more men in low-paying professions that are currently disproportionately female as a natural consequence.

imustbeevil 9y ago
> To be fair, they are at almost exactly the national pre-K average there. And Google's representation of women in software engineering roles is also around the industry average. To your second point, it's not either or. You can both better incentivize women in tech and men in teaching.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > And Google's representation of women in software engineering roles is also around the industry average. Sure. And both scenarios need industry-wide efforts to increase gender equality. But Google is basically an irrelevant factor in the pre-K teaching industry, and a giant one in the software industry. > To your second point, it's not either or. Societally, sure. In the case of particular firms, their ability to impact different fields with the same expenditure of resources is highly dependent on their position in the various fields.
  - kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
    We can talk after the pre-K teaching industry gets non-stop trenchant criticism of the kind that gets levied on the tech industry (not merely suggestive articles) about their massive gender disparity.
    - danso 9y ago
      In the U.S., the executives and managing administrators of school districts skew heavily male, no matter the skew toward females for teachers and curriculum tracts: http://aasa.org/SchoolAdministratorArticle.aspx?id=14492 http://aasa.org/SchoolAdministratorArticle.aspx?id=14492 Is it the case in Silicon Valley that many of the executives are women?
      - kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
        Not sure how this is relevant. No one is doubting that executives at all levels and in all industries skew male.
        danso 9y ago
        You’re not sure how relevant it is that men are still in control even in a field where they are vastly outnumbered in the rank and file?