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But if you could do that you would then start making a profit, so would no longer qualify as nonprofit ;) If you're spending more in developer fees than you're

by nsgi 9y ago

But if you could do that you would then start making a profit, so would no longer qualify as nonprofit ;) If you're spending more in developer fees than you're making from the apps it might make sense to make them free/ad-free so you can qualify as non-profit. You would lose the possibility of turning a profit in the future, though. Edit: Just realised it's not available to individuals/non-profit businesses, which is a shame. If it was it could increase the number of free/ad-free apps and maybe the quality of the app store as a whole. Plus, who says one person can't run a non-profit. Surely they have to start somewhere like any other organisation?

icebraining 9y ago
who says one person can't run a non-profit I'm guessing: the IRS. A non-profit is a specific type of entity, not a business model.
- coldtea 9y ago
  That's irrelevant as to whether one person can run it. Like an LLC -- one person can run one, it doesn't take 2.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    Right, but an LLC is still a separate entity. nsgi's question, as far as I understood it, is why an individual can't be a non-profit without incorporating it.
    - coldtea 9y ago
      A, that's true then. A non-profit is all about being registered as one (incorporating etc) and not about intentions (or for that matter, not being into it for profit).
dragonwriter 9y ago
> If you're spending more in developer fees than you're making from the apps it might make sense to make them free/ad-free so you can qualify as non-profit. That's not how you form a non-profit [0]; not deriving revenue from products is neither necessary nor sufficient to establish non-profit status. > Plus, who says one person can't run a non-profit One person can run a non-profit, but it still probably needs to be incorporated as a separate legal entity, and may (in some states) need a three-member board. > Surely they have to start somewhere like any other organisation Yes, they have to start somewhere, but that “somewhere”, in some jurisdictions, involves more than one person overseeing operations. [0] as a starting point, see: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/form-nonprofit-eight-steps-29484.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/form-nonprofit-eight...
lathiat 9y ago
The exact definitions vary by country, I am not sure how it is precisely in the USA. In Australia, basically it means the company is not for the benefit of any given person and you cannot distribute profits by taking them and chopping them up - and you must distribute any leftover funds if the organisations winds up to a like-minded not-for-profit organisation., You can still however make money, pay employees (even if it's a large amount) for work done, etc. Not-for-profits are also sometimes conflated with Charities. In Australia they are two different things, a not-for-profit can be a charity and vica-versa but they don't need to be both.

by nsgi 9y ago

icebraining 9y ago

who says one person can't run a non-profit I'm guessing: the IRS. A non-profit is a specific type of entity, not a business model.

coldtea 9y ago
That's irrelevant as to whether one person can run it. Like an LLC -- one person can run one, it doesn't take 2.
- icebraining 9y ago
  Right, but an LLC is still a separate entity. nsgi's question, as far as I understood it, is why an individual can't be a non-profit without incorporating it.
  - coldtea 9y ago
    A, that's true then. A non-profit is all about being registered as one (incorporating etc) and not about intentions (or for that matter, not being into it for profit).

dragonwriter 9y ago

> If you're spending more in developer fees than you're making from the apps it might make sense to make them free/ad-free so you can qualify as non-profit. That's not how you form a non-profit [0]; not deriving revenue from products is neither necessary nor sufficient to establish non-profit status. > Plus, who says one person can't run a non-profit One person can run a non-profit, but it still probably needs to be incorporated as a separate legal entity, and may (in some states) need a three-member board. > Surely they have to start somewhere like any other organisation Yes, they have to start somewhere, but that “somewhere”, in some jurisdictions, involves more than one person overseeing operations. [0] as a starting point, see: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/form-nonprofit-eight-steps-29484.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/form-nonprofit-eight...

lathiat 9y ago

The exact definitions vary by country, I am not sure how it is precisely in the USA. In Australia, basically it means the company is not for the benefit of any given person and you cannot distribute profits by taking them and chopping them up - and you must distribute any leftover funds if the organisations winds up to a like-minded not-for-profit organisation., You can still however make money, pay employees (even if it's a large amount) for work done, etc. Not-for-profits are also sometimes conflated with Charities. In Australia they are two different things, a not-for-profit can be a charity and vica-versa but they don't need to be both.