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I think a decent portion should also be laid at the feet of technology in general, not even just Netflix, but also that how teens interact on social media is mo

I think a decent portion should also be laid at the feet of technology in general, not even just Netflix, but also that how teens interact on social media is more or less in the public (and their parents) eyes, with the exceptions of things like Snapchat which isn't very conducive to planning a party. It's also worth noting that it's much, much harder for teens to get ahold of booze these days, and the penalties for having anything they shouldn't have, be it alcohol, drugs, whatever, are extremely steep. Not saying that stops it completely, but they keep that sort of thing quiet if they don't want to end up in prison for a couple of decades. Enough weed to throw a party, in many states, would get you put in a cell until you were middle-aged. After all of that, a good amount I agree with the article is just down to kids having more to do that doesn't carry anything close to the same kind of risks; I also don't understand why this is a bad thing?

bluedino 9y ago
>> It's also worth noting that it's much, much harder for teens to get ahold of booze these days 20 years ago we just had an older sibling or co-worker buy for us. What's changed?
- smelendez 9y ago
  More stigma attached to it for the buyer. Stricter enforcement of 21 to drink rules so older sibling will have a harder time buying with a fake ID if under 21. Fewer teens working so less interaction with over 21s.
  - FussyZeus 9y ago
    Also see above about high consequences. Any over 21 with a brain wouldn't do it, because that's another of those ways to fuck your life up that boomers and Xers could afford to do, but millennials really can't.
- lovich 9y ago
  Technology has made law enforcement much more efficient and as a society we've pushed for greater and greater protections for children. For instance all the examples of people getting the cops called on them for letting their children walk outside unsupervised
PotatoMatch 9y ago
The parties aren't a bad thing, but the article also mentions teens hang out with friends less. Good relationships are important to our health and life satisfaction, and it's a shame kids are missing out on learning the social skills that encourage good relationships.
donatj 9y ago
> it's much, much harder for teens to get ahold of booze these days Which I think is foolish. Of course total prohibition followed by total access a day later leads to abuse and binging. It’s simply stupid. I’d had decent, safe access to alcohol for a while before my twenty first rolled around, and as a consequence had no desire to drink until I die of alcohol poisoning when it was legal. I don’t know exactly how to implement it but I think we should have a graduated system, like let 17 year olds buy 3.2 beer, and work it’s way up from there. Let kids get their sea legs before throwing them into the deep end.
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  My parents were very liberal regarding alcohol; I'd request, they'd see how much I'd requested recently (wasn't ever much, spent too much money on video-games to afford alcoholism) they'd pick it up for me. In fact my Dad educated me a lot on whiskeys, what to look for, what to avoid, etc. I never felt alcohol was stigmatized in my house, and so when I turned 21, I did have a pretty big party with other drinking aged friends and actually bought drinks myself at restaurants, but aside of that, not much changed. I still drink socially, but I've never felt even the slightest urge to overdo it (and in fact, only get stumble drunk at home with friends).

bluedino 9y ago

>> It's also worth noting that it's much, much harder for teens to get ahold of booze these days 20 years ago we just had an older sibling or co-worker buy for us. What's changed?

smelendez 9y ago
More stigma attached to it for the buyer. Stricter enforcement of 21 to drink rules so older sibling will have a harder time buying with a fake ID if under 21. Fewer teens working so less interaction with over 21s.
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  Also see above about high consequences. Any over 21 with a brain wouldn't do it, because that's another of those ways to fuck your life up that boomers and Xers could afford to do, but millennials really can't.
lovich 9y ago
Technology has made law enforcement much more efficient and as a society we've pushed for greater and greater protections for children. For instance all the examples of people getting the cops called on them for letting their children walk outside unsupervised

PotatoMatch 9y ago

The parties aren't a bad thing, but the article also mentions teens hang out with friends less. Good relationships are important to our health and life satisfaction, and it's a shame kids are missing out on learning the social skills that encourage good relationships.

donatj 9y ago

> it's much, much harder for teens to get ahold of booze these days Which I think is foolish. Of course total prohibition followed by total access a day later leads to abuse and binging. It’s simply stupid. I’d had decent, safe access to alcohol for a while before my twenty first rolled around, and as a consequence had no desire to drink until I die of alcohol poisoning when it was legal. I don’t know exactly how to implement it but I think we should have a graduated system, like let 17 year olds buy 3.2 beer, and work it’s way up from there. Let kids get their sea legs before throwing them into the deep end.

FussyZeus 9y ago
My parents were very liberal regarding alcohol; I'd request, they'd see how much I'd requested recently (wasn't ever much, spent too much money on video-games to afford alcoholism) they'd pick it up for me. In fact my Dad educated me a lot on whiskeys, what to look for, what to avoid, etc. I never felt alcohol was stigmatized in my house, and so when I turned 21, I did have a pretty big party with other drinking aged friends and actually bought drinks myself at restaurants, but aside of that, not much changed. I still drink socially, but I've never felt even the slightest urge to overdo it (and in fact, only get stumble drunk at home with friends).