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That's a fairly insightful observation in that in the old days in the agricultural high carb west we balanced the obesity causing nature of extremely high carb
by VLM 9y ago
That's a fairly insightful observation in that in the old days in the agricultural high carb west we balanced the obesity causing nature of extremely high carb diets against malnourishment, internal parasites, and periodic regular famines. We eliminated all three in the last century while keeping the ultra high carb diet, in fact boosting the carb intake to levels never seen before, and unsurprisingly the obesity level exploded.
For example five minutes with google searching for "khmer malnurishment" will find that about a third of the kids have some kind of malnutrition problem. Admittedly those stats come from people who's salaries depend on the problem existing and are therefore untrustworthy, but I'm sure real world rates none the less exceed a quarter.
Kinda the whole point of the obesity epidemic in the post-green revolution west is we don't have 1/3 of the population dying of scurvy regardless of how much carb they eat, and by definition we never ever fast or have any carb intake limit at all.
Its entirely possible that an ultra high carb diet as experienced in the west until the 1970s is perfectly stable as long as you have repetitive unintentional fasts (aka famines) and massive infestation of tapeworms and other intestinal parasites combined with universal vitamin deficiency such that everyone's a little sick all the time.
Its interesting to think about intestinal parasite eradication in terms similar to current discussion of probiotics and antibiotics in food. Tapeworms are gross, but so is dying 20 years earlier due to obesity... Its not a huge step in the probiotic marketing sense from unicellular parasites to multicellular parasites.
- cageface 9y agoI see the same thing in Vietnam, and it’s not because of malnutrition or a massive epidemic of parasites. It is mainly to do with the fact that people also consume vegetables (ie fiber) with their rice, and that they tend to be more physically active than Westeners.
- ecshafer 9y agoThe proportion of the American diet that was carbs has risen since the 60s, not decreased. In the 50s and before the average American ate a larger portion of their diet as fats, butter and oils were very common and heavily used in western diets before the anti fat craze.
- marcus_holmes 9y agoThe malnourishment problem is seen out in the provinces, maybe, still. In the city it's not a problem. Kids get enough to eat these days, and you can see the height difference between the under-20's and the over-30's, it's significant. My Khmer tutor is a skinny 28-year old who has eaten white rice four times a day for her entire life. She's kinda typical here. It's possible it's down to parasites. Foreigners routinely get amoebic dysentery here, but the locals don't. I have no idea how you build up an immunity to amoebas, maybe you just get used to them.