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How does that work in parallel with "It's my device, I'll do what I want with it"?

AnIdiotOnTheNet 9y ago
It doesn't. We've had user-based permissions in the mainstream on personal devices ever since XP, and they have totally failed to protect us from anything. It is an utterly broken, worse than useless, backwards model of security for this class of device. If you think I'm wrong, by all means tell me why instead of just downvoting like some reddit user. I'll happily provide you with a list of all the ransomware that didn't require even a single elevated permission to ruin someone's day.
- blowski 9y ago
  From the guidelines: > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. Better to provide that list without complaining about the downvotes. Even better would be suggesting how you would improve the system.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 9y ago
    Even better would be if I just left this hellhole I think. The only difference between this place and the cesspool of reddit seems to be that people here think they're better than redditors while behaving exactly the same way.
    - jsjohnst 9y ago
      > Even better would be if I just left this hellhole I think. If that’s what you think about it, then yeah, I agree you should, at least until you cool off anyway.
eli 9y ago
Make dangerous things hard to do, but not impossible
- mantas 9y ago
  So someone could make a script simplifying them :)
pas 9y ago
Ask the user what kind of device it wants. (And then when the user says give me the developer hyper bleeding edge pro X, because my mom needs 4K cat videos, then maybe try to persuade the user that the regular non-devkit version would be the sane choice.) And in the dev version protect the dev mode by some small ritual (like the 7-times tapping on About in Android).
Feniks 9y ago
Oh man the hoops I had to jump through to get full admin control over windows 10. I understand the necessity of hiding power options but that was excessive.

It doesn't. We've had user-based permissions in the mainstream on personal devices ever since XP, and they have totally failed to protect us from anything. It is an utterly broken, worse than useless, backwards model of security for this class of device. If you think I'm wrong, by all means tell me why instead of just downvoting like some reddit user. I'll happily provide you with a list of all the ransomware that didn't require even a single elevated permission to ruin someone's day.

blowski 9y ago
From the guidelines: > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. Better to provide that list without complaining about the downvotes. Even better would be suggesting how you would improve the system.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 9y ago
  Even better would be if I just left this hellhole I think. The only difference between this place and the cesspool of reddit seems to be that people here think they're better than redditors while behaving exactly the same way.
  - jsjohnst 9y ago
    > Even better would be if I just left this hellhole I think. If that’s what you think about it, then yeah, I agree you should, at least until you cool off anyway.

eli 9y ago

Make dangerous things hard to do, but not impossible

mantas 9y ago
So someone could make a script simplifying them :)

pas 9y ago

Ask the user what kind of device it wants. (And then when the user says give me the developer hyper bleeding edge pro X, because my mom needs 4K cat videos, then maybe try to persuade the user that the regular non-devkit version would be the sane choice.) And in the dev version protect the dev mode by some small ritual (like the 7-times tapping on About in Android).

Feniks 9y ago

Oh man the hoops I had to jump through to get full admin control over windows 10. I understand the necessity of hiding power options but that was excessive.