You are confusing things here. Incarceration has nothing to do with what we are talking about. No one ever said the US is perfect. We are talking about whether

You are confusing things here. Incarceration has nothing to do with what we are talking about. No one ever said the US is perfect. We are talking about whether 1) you can apply scandinavian style healthcare to the us (you can't) and whether the US provides more opportunities than other places (it still does) It's not equal and it's not trying to be equal either. EU isn't big geographically compared to the US and it's not as sparsely populated as the US is. That's what I mean with big. Yes, America is the land of opportunity for some. I don't think we were debating obvious truths here. The point is that America does, in fact, provide much more opportunities. That doesn't mean everyone is going to make it. That's never been the point about that expression anyway. The US isn't more selfish if we actually look at how many volunteer in the US that alone would show that it's not that simple.