There is also the issue that they look at the top of the line to aknowledge an issue (or not). Show how their healthcare system is not very good for the bucks

There is also the issue that they look at the top of the line to aknowledge an issue (or not). Show how their healthcare system is not very good for the bucks for the average person, and you get answered that the very top specialist at the very top hospital for the very top money there gives you the best treatement ever. Thanks but I will still take my average specialist at my local hospital for a low price that's included in my mensual who gives me top of the line. Show the student debt problem or their school system issues, and you get answers about the top ivy leagues and the likes ... I'm not sure where this comes from. I'm not saying they're wrong and I'm right, but that I'm even having issue understanding the other's side point of view; I can't really see the benefit to society of that kind of model. To me this feels like going back to feudalism and nobility without the titles. Because I can't see the discussion from their point of view, I'm not able to argue and discuss propely either.