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... if they decide they want my land, it will not be manageable for me ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_dom

... if they decide they want my land, it will not be manageable for me ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain

guelo 16y ago
Give me a break! If the US government decides to take your property through Eminent Domain you will be properly compensated and you can appeal all the way to the Supreme Court without fear of being thrown in jail.
- old-gregg 16y ago
  Perhaps you should give me a break with you screaming about jails. My wife's parents lived in an older house in historic district of downtown Kazan. When the government "took their property" to rebuild the area they compensated them by a much nicer and bigger apartment in a great neighborhood. I am just pointing out this is not uncommon to relocate folks for the common good in many countries. Presumably you're expecting to be mistreated automatically just because you're in Russia and this happens to you. I don't believe there are any grounds for that assumption. Granted, chances of that happening in Russia are higher but as I mentioned earlier, on the grand scheme of things I (and most entrepreneurs I know) find those risks to be insignificant.
  - thaumaturgy 16y ago
    There's room for you both to be right. People tend not to have problems with a government or laws until they find themselves on the wrong end of them.
  - rdtsc 16y ago
    One example doesn't prove the rule.
  - kragen 16y ago
    Kazan is the eighth largest city in Russia, for those (like me) who didn't know what country it was in.
- aristus 16y ago
  The US may be gentler, but I take issue with "properly compensated". My grandfather owned a grocery store on the path of a new highway in Texas. The government bought every house in the neighborhood first, depriving him of customers, then made him an extremely low offer based on his now extremely-reduced revenues. Better than arson or threats, but not exactly nice or fair.
- thaumaturgy 16y ago
  ...and lose, even if your property is being taken to benefit someone building a shopping mall. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London) Offers of compensation are small comfort to people that are being forced out of a home they care about, especially when they have no choice, recourse, or influence in the matter.
  - gthank 16y ago
    Being forced to accept a fair(ish) compensation is way better than just getting disappeared by the government and/or mafia.
    - thaumaturgy 16y ago
      I dub this Rob's Law: For any arbitrarily bad situation, someone can always imagine a worse situation. And the corollary: the second situation does not, by comparison, improve the first.
raquo 16y ago
Although a special eminent domain for Skolkovo-like projects is most likely to be passed this autumn, it is not really required. And you will be compensated for land only, not for buildings. And how fair do you think the applied "fair market rate" will be?

... if they decide they want my land, it will not be manageable for me ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain

guelo 16y ago

Give me a break! If the US government decides to take your property through Eminent Domain you will be properly compensated and you can appeal all the way to the Supreme Court without fear of being thrown in jail.

old-gregg 16y ago
Perhaps you should give me a break with you screaming about jails. My wife's parents lived in an older house in historic district of downtown Kazan. When the government "took their property" to rebuild the area they compensated them by a much nicer and bigger apartment in a great neighborhood. I am just pointing out this is not uncommon to relocate folks for the common good in many countries. Presumably you're expecting to be mistreated automatically just because you're in Russia and this happens to you. I don't believe there are any grounds for that assumption. Granted, chances of that happening in Russia are higher but as I mentioned earlier, on the grand scheme of things I (and most entrepreneurs I know) find those risks to be insignificant.
- thaumaturgy 16y ago
  There's room for you both to be right. People tend not to have problems with a government or laws until they find themselves on the wrong end of them.
- rdtsc 16y ago
  One example doesn't prove the rule.
- kragen 16y ago
  Kazan is the eighth largest city in Russia, for those (like me) who didn't know what country it was in.
aristus 16y ago
The US may be gentler, but I take issue with "properly compensated". My grandfather owned a grocery store on the path of a new highway in Texas. The government bought every house in the neighborhood first, depriving him of customers, then made him an extremely low offer based on his now extremely-reduced revenues. Better than arson or threats, but not exactly nice or fair.
thaumaturgy 16y ago
...and lose, even if your property is being taken to benefit someone building a shopping mall. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London) Offers of compensation are small comfort to people that are being forced out of a home they care about, especially when they have no choice, recourse, or influence in the matter.
- gthank 16y ago
  Being forced to accept a fair(ish) compensation is way better than just getting disappeared by the government and/or mafia.
  - thaumaturgy 16y ago
    I dub this Rob's Law: For any arbitrarily bad situation, someone can always imagine a worse situation. And the corollary: the second situation does not, by comparison, improve the first.

raquo 16y ago

Although a special eminent domain for Skolkovo-like projects is most likely to be passed this autumn, it is not really required. And you will be compensated for land only, not for buildings. And how fair do you think the applied "fair market rate" will be?