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Usage of <y> (and <th> for that matter) in place of <þ> predates Caxton's press. An example of a scribe substituting <y> for <þ> in manuscript can be seen at [
by groovy2shoes 9y ago
Usage of <y> (and <th> for that matter) in place of <þ> predates Caxton's press. An example of a scribe substituting <y> for <þ> in manuscript can be seen at [1], a legal document in an English chancery hand from c. 1445. The use of <th> was already very common in the Middle English period, with <þ> (or later <y>) retaining use only in sigla (common scribal abbreviations). See [2], a page of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales from the Ellesmere manuscript (c. 1410) for example.
In fact, many (most?) of the works printed by Caxton himself actually do feature a distinct <þ> glyph, though it is limited in use to sigla (it never appears without a superscript <e> for <þe>, <t> for <þat>, …). His first printed English work [3], printed c. 1473 while he was still stationed at Bruges in what is now Belgium, has a distinct <þ>; his later works printed at his own press in London do also, such as [4] (which is printed c. 1480 in the typeface characteristic of his press).
For some related discussion, see [5].
That said, I share your dismay that we no longer have a <þ> (or, honestly, an <ð> or a <ȝ>, though [ð] and [θ] are allophones and the <gh> once represented by <ȝ> is now often silent). I just wouldn't be so quick to blame Caxton.
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[1]: http://medievalwriting.50megs.com/scripts/examples/chancery6.htm http://medievalwriting.50megs.com/scripts/examples/chancery6...
[2]: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Ellesmere_Manuscript_Knight_Portrait.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Ellesmer...
[3]: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/displayPhoto.pl?path=/service/rbc/rbc0001/2004/2004rosen1211&topImages=0009r.jpg http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/displayPhoto.pl?path=/service/...
[4]: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Brut_Chronicle.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Brut_Chr...
[5]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15678583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15678583
- mc32 9y agoHey awesome information, thanks. I was a while ago I had read about that theory in some book about old English. Looks like the custom existed before Caxton but the printing press exacerbated it and pretty much put an end to the vacillation.