> Jira is a painful to use, especially compared to trello Have never been able to use trello effectively with any clients. It's simply too open-ended on its o

> Jira is a painful to use, especially compared to trello Have never been able to use trello effectively with any clients. It's simply too open-ended on its own. "Issue trackers" (like Jira) have some semblance of workflow predefined, and act as a decent guide for people who are not "project managers" to still bring some degree of order/structure, with the benefit that that structure was actually defined by someone else who thought about data/structure/flow/etc.