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> In more developed countries that would be illegal. You are guaranteed to be able to return to the same position and pay. Even if you quit entirely, beyond st

> In more developed countries that would be illegal. You are guaranteed to be able to return to the same position and pay. Even if you quit entirely, beyond straightforward maternity/paternity leave? I don't think I'd be in favor of that type of regulation. In my opinion, if you make the decision to quit (for whatever reason), you can come back to get whatever job your skills let you get. I also think "developed" isn't the adjective you're looking for, maybe "tightly-regulated".

tjoff 9y ago
> Even if you quit entirely, beyond straightforward maternity/paternity leave? Of course not. The point is that there shouldn't be any economical or work-related downside (other than slightly less pay during maternity/paternity leave) for having a child. (Obviously raising a child costs money but I hope you get the idea) Developed is quite apt for any society that values its members.
- alexanderstears 9y ago
  >The point is that there shouldn't be any economical or work-related downside (other than slightly less pay during maternity/paternity leave) for having a child. but there are productivity downsides to having a child - taking more sick days, less flexibility, etc. To the extent that we expect equal pay for equal work and we have lowered expectations for parents who work, there should be downsides to having a child or upsides to remaining childless. >Developed is quite apt for any society that values its members. Still, developed isn't the right dimension. Pygmy tribes value all their members, but they're not developed. Well, do they even 'value' their members? They don't value their members enough to integrate into the global economy and enjoy the benefits of evidence based medicine and trade. Development is more closely related to infrastructure and safety/security. We understand poor parts of Mexico to be less developed than NYC because of ease of access to infrastructure and the difference in safety/security.
tpm 9y ago
No, it's still maternity leave, but in some countries up to 3 years as far as I know. After that there are state-provided kindergartens.

tjoff 9y ago

> Even if you quit entirely, beyond straightforward maternity/paternity leave? Of course not. The point is that there shouldn't be any economical or work-related downside (other than slightly less pay during maternity/paternity leave) for having a child. (Obviously raising a child costs money but I hope you get the idea) Developed is quite apt for any society that values its members.

alexanderstears 9y ago
>The point is that there shouldn't be any economical or work-related downside (other than slightly less pay during maternity/paternity leave) for having a child. but there are productivity downsides to having a child - taking more sick days, less flexibility, etc. To the extent that we expect equal pay for equal work and we have lowered expectations for parents who work, there should be downsides to having a child or upsides to remaining childless. >Developed is quite apt for any society that values its members. Still, developed isn't the right dimension. Pygmy tribes value all their members, but they're not developed. Well, do they even 'value' their members? They don't value their members enough to integrate into the global economy and enjoy the benefits of evidence based medicine and trade. Development is more closely related to infrastructure and safety/security. We understand poor parts of Mexico to be less developed than NYC because of ease of access to infrastructure and the difference in safety/security.

tpm 9y ago

No, it's still maternity leave, but in some countries up to 3 years as far as I know. After that there are state-provided kindergartens.