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"and superior to web-hybrid options like Electron" Superior exactly in what way? Electron allows access to an enormous audience of developers and the web ecosy

"and superior to web-hybrid options like Electron" Superior exactly in what way? Electron allows access to an enormous audience of developers and the web ecosystem. You really can't compete with that and would be silly to try at this point.

Negitivefrags 9y ago
You cut out the rest of the sentence which was specifically referring to on-disk size.
- iamleppert 9y ago
  It's not valid (or even remotely tangential) to compare a hello world app with minimal GUI to a full web browser.
  - kodablah 9y ago
    How about comparing a hello world app to another hello world app? Or do you consider that comparison invalid because Electron/Chromium don't have ways to strip unused features? To me, a comparison of similar end results is reasonable. Arguments about whether hello world apps represent reality, or comparisons between WebGL/WebAudio apps vs LWJGL apps, would be more apt.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    The Java standard libraries also contain a full web browser, and much more than what your browser can do.
    - guelo 9y ago
      Sounds like you didn't read the article.
      - kuschku 9y ago
        The point is that even if you add the module for the browser, you’re still significantly smaller than Electron – while, at the same time, Java can actually eliminate unused modules for you, which Electron doesn’t.
  - lmm 9y ago
    They didn't. They compared a hello world app with minimal GUI (implemented with Electron) to a hello world app with minimal GUI (implemented with Java).
orf 9y ago
There are an enormous number of Java developers, and an absolutely humungeous ecosystem.
zerr 9y ago
Don't forget to put end-users in the equation...