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Totally agree, plus animals are extremely inefficient meat producers.
by luisramalho 9y ago
Totally agree, plus animals are extremely inefficient meat producers.
- drb91 9y agoEr, compared to what? Animals may not be an energy efficient food, but they are the only way to get meat.
- akgerber 9y agoEating non-animal foods and producing meat (muscle) inside your body.
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- jriot 9y agoIt is far more efficient to eat animals and produce muscle. There aren't many world renowned athletes who are vegan for obvious reasons.
- marcc 9y agoWill you elaborate on the obvious reasons? Pretend they aren't obvious to me. I'm interested in reading more about athletic advantages gained from consuming meat. Is there a reason that other sources of protein aren't giving the same benefit?
- jriot 9y agoHere is a good article breaking it all down along with the amounts you would need to eat to get the same benefit. https://www.muscleforlife.com/animal-protein-vs-plant-protein/ https://www.muscleforlife.com/animal-protein-vs-plant-protei...
- gruez 9y agoefficiency in that context means from a global of view, not how much time you're spending eating.
- rsynnott 9y agoI assume they mean efficiency as in land area used etc. You have to put quite a lot of calories into a cow to get one calorie out.
- jriot 9y agohttps://qz.com/749443/being-vegan-isnt-as-environmentally-friendly-as-you-think/ https://qz.com/749443/being-vegan-isnt-as-environmentally-fr... Being vegan is that efficient either.
- tgb 9y agoThat's a poor summary of the article you link, given that it says vegan diets are almost twice as efficient as the standard American diet. (It just also says that low-meat diets are even more efficient in terms of land use.)
- mdarens 9y agoseeing as how veganism is not the default choice in most of the industrialized world, this is a misleading frame. it's also incorrect that it's more efficient to "eat animals" to produce muscle if we're being pedantic (as a vegetarian, however, this is not a meaningless distinction to me)— amino acids in dairy & eggs have a measurably higher bioavailability than those in meat, whether ranked by the PDCAAS or DIAAS https://web.archive.org/web/20151010170125/http://www.idf-iso-analytical-week.org/Files/media/AW2013/T-van-Hoojidonk---Assessing-protein-quality-110613.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20151010170125/http://www.idf-is....
- xexers 9y agoCompared to just eating the grains ourselves. For cattle, it takes 100 calories of grains to produce 10 calories of beef.
- emusan 9y agoI think it's important to point out though that cattle can digest and "convert" a significantly wider variety of plant sources into meat. Our bodies simply can't digest a lot of what they can.
- xexers 9y agoSure... but it's also important to point out that while cattle "should" eat grass and can eat silage... 78% of beef in America comes from feedlot cattle[1]. On feedlots, the cattle are fed grains, not grass/silage... grains that we humans can easily eat like soy, corn, and barley [2]. 1. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/nil-zacharias/its-time-to-end-factory-f_b_1018840.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/nil-zacharias/its-time-to-end... 2. http://www.goodfoodworld.com/2012/01/grass-fed-vs-feedlot-beef-whats-the-difference/ http://www.goodfoodworld.com/2012/01/grass-fed-vs-feedlot-be...
- jjeaff 9y agoNone of those cows are raised on feedlots. Feedlots are used to fatten and "finish" the beef. Most all cattle start their life being grass fed.
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- luisramalho 9y ago> Er, compared to what? I meant compared to lab-grown meat, as most of the energy from food is not used for building muscles but rather for the brain.
- chrisseaton 9y ago> I meant compared to lab-grown meat How are you able to say this? Have you seen any data about how efficient lab-grown mean is to produce?