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I used to agree with that, but at the current price levels I would say that if this is the source of value, then it is absolutely and incredibly overvalued. In

I used to agree with that, but at the current price levels I would say that if this is the source of value, then it is absolutely and incredibly overvalued. In addition, the PoW is centralized (for the most part) within a few massive mining operations. A 51% attack isn't an impossible notion. I know many would disagree with this, but while Bitcoin was the first of its kind, and it absolutely cleared the way for all the subsequent coins, its quickly becoming unusable. And that's not even considering the massive volatility of it. Such volatility implies that proper volumes aren't there to support its value. With that in mind, and also the notion of an aging technology, I think investing in it is not a good idea.

travoc 9y ago
Bitcoin has about half the volatility of its cryptocurrency peers.
- Florin_Andrei 9y ago
  Seems normal that the little networks are more volatile.
- bmm6o 9y ago
  You would hope, with its much higher market cap, that the volatility would be much lower than only half as much.
Florin_Andrei 9y ago
> A 51% attack isn't an impossible notion. I read somewhere that several bitcoin mining facilities in China, when counted together own over 50% of the hashing power currently online in the Bitcoin network. If true, collusion scenarios could easily be imagined.
- jjxw 9y ago
  Certainly not impossible, but one thing is a disincentive to commit a 51% attack is that if you had that much computing power a more profitable use of it would be to just mine rather than create fake transactions which, if detected, could crash the value of the currency.
  - Florin_Andrei 9y ago
    > if detected How people think of that hypothetical if-then scenario depends a lot on numerous factors. I think, in places where corruption is more common, it is easier to believe it's less likely you'll get caught, or minimize the consequences when thinking about it. There's also a lower threshold for your imagination to go wandering off in that direction and begin architecting plans. "If detected, could crash the whole thing" is a way of thinking more common in cultures where the rule of law is far more established in the common mindset. I'm not making any sort of prediction (and I own bitcoin myself, though not a large amount). I'm just saying - this is how our minds work.
  - politician 9y ago
    > a disincentive to commit a 51% attack... Consider that if a state goal was to wipe out the wealth of the other 49% as a plausibly deniable economic attack, then having a majority of the mining power within your borders makes a lot of sense.
- SkyMarshal 9y ago
  Last I checked it was around 60%. Also, Bitmain is the sole supplier of ASICs to most of the Chinese miners, and thus has some power over what those miners do or don't do (particularly in the Core vs Cash debate).

travoc 9y ago

Bitcoin has about half the volatility of its cryptocurrency peers.

Florin_Andrei 9y ago
Seems normal that the little networks are more volatile.
bmm6o 9y ago
You would hope, with its much higher market cap, that the volatility would be much lower than only half as much.

Florin_Andrei 9y ago

> A 51% attack isn't an impossible notion. I read somewhere that several bitcoin mining facilities in China, when counted together own over 50% of the hashing power currently online in the Bitcoin network. If true, collusion scenarios could easily be imagined.

jjxw 9y ago
Certainly not impossible, but one thing is a disincentive to commit a 51% attack is that if you had that much computing power a more profitable use of it would be to just mine rather than create fake transactions which, if detected, could crash the value of the currency.
- Florin_Andrei 9y ago
  > if detected How people think of that hypothetical if-then scenario depends a lot on numerous factors. I think, in places where corruption is more common, it is easier to believe it's less likely you'll get caught, or minimize the consequences when thinking about it. There's also a lower threshold for your imagination to go wandering off in that direction and begin architecting plans. "If detected, could crash the whole thing" is a way of thinking more common in cultures where the rule of law is far more established in the common mindset. I'm not making any sort of prediction (and I own bitcoin myself, though not a large amount). I'm just saying - this is how our minds work.
- politician 9y ago
  > a disincentive to commit a 51% attack... Consider that if a state goal was to wipe out the wealth of the other 49% as a plausibly deniable economic attack, then having a majority of the mining power within your borders makes a lot of sense.
SkyMarshal 9y ago
Last I checked it was around 60%. Also, Bitmain is the sole supplier of ASICs to most of the Chinese miners, and thus has some power over what those miners do or don't do (particularly in the Core vs Cash debate).