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> Taking in natives mean pay has to be high. More than pay, it is the "culture fit" that these companies seem to care more for. The business model of these co

> Taking in natives mean pay has to be high. More than pay, it is the "culture fit" that these companies seem to care more for. The business model of these companies involve getting most of the work done in India. For that to work, one needs phone calls at odd hours. An Indian employee will be more willing to accommodate these demands to attend work-related calls at odd hours. As regulation around H-1B and similar work visas tighten, Indian outsourcers are trying to hire people of Indian origin who have green cards or are American citizens. I know from a handful of acquaintances that these employees are paid well - hence my thesis that it really isn't about the money.

knowThySelfx 9y ago
Hiring Green card holders or Indian's of American citizenship is a different matter. They aren't gonna work for the salary of an Indian citizen on H1B. The equation changes there. I agree, there could be a cultural angle. But I don't think that is the main reason.
- mavelikara 9y ago
  > Hiring Green card holders or Indian's of American citizenship is a different matter. They aren't gonna work for the salary of an Indian citizen on H1B. The equation changes there. The savings from the salaries of few US employees does not change "the equation", as you put it, for global outsourcing companies - Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, IBM GS, Capgemini, Accenture etc - who make tens of billions per year, and employ hundreds of thousand people.
  - knowThySelfx 9y ago
    In TCS, is the salary scale same for Indians on H1B and American Citizens? (Assuming they are equally qualified/competent)
    - mavelikara 9y ago
      I don't know. From anecdotal reports I have heard, they don't hire from both classes of people for equivalent positions.
avasylev 9y ago
Employing a few citizens/green card holders, doesn't mean it's not about money - it just to satisfy regulations, so you can keep getting h1b's approved. Most of outsourcing companies now moved to having small offices in US. 5%-10% are employed in US, while the rest is outsources, such models with few employees onsite just helps to outsource more.
- mavelikara 9y ago
  The number of people these companies have in US is a minuscule fraction of their total worldwide employees (Infosys employs 200K, TCS 380K). The salary of H-1Bs in US is also a minuscule fraction of their revenue (Infosys makes 10B annually, TCS 17B). > 5%-10% are employed in US, while the rest is outsources, such models with few employees onsite just helps to outsource more. My point, precisely. These companies would not mind paying good salaries to their employees on H-1B, or hire local employees, if they can keep the outsourcing business humming along. > Employing a few citizens/green card holders, doesn't mean it's not about money Well, it is about the money as in every business is about that. But these companies hire H-1Bs not to save money primarily. It is not clear to me from your comment wether you are agreeing or disagreeing with that.

knowThySelfx 9y ago

Hiring Green card holders or Indian's of American citizenship is a different matter. They aren't gonna work for the salary of an Indian citizen on H1B. The equation changes there. I agree, there could be a cultural angle. But I don't think that is the main reason.

mavelikara 9y ago
> Hiring Green card holders or Indian's of American citizenship is a different matter. They aren't gonna work for the salary of an Indian citizen on H1B. The equation changes there. The savings from the salaries of few US employees does not change "the equation", as you put it, for global outsourcing companies - Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, IBM GS, Capgemini, Accenture etc - who make tens of billions per year, and employ hundreds of thousand people.
- knowThySelfx 9y ago
  In TCS, is the salary scale same for Indians on H1B and American Citizens? (Assuming they are equally qualified/competent)
  - mavelikara 9y ago
    I don't know. From anecdotal reports I have heard, they don't hire from both classes of people for equivalent positions.

avasylev 9y ago

Employing a few citizens/green card holders, doesn't mean it's not about money - it just to satisfy regulations, so you can keep getting h1b's approved. Most of outsourcing companies now moved to having small offices in US. 5%-10% are employed in US, while the rest is outsources, such models with few employees onsite just helps to outsource more.

mavelikara 9y ago
The number of people these companies have in US is a minuscule fraction of their total worldwide employees (Infosys employs 200K, TCS 380K). The salary of H-1Bs in US is also a minuscule fraction of their revenue (Infosys makes 10B annually, TCS 17B). > 5%-10% are employed in US, while the rest is outsources, such models with few employees onsite just helps to outsource more. My point, precisely. These companies would not mind paying good salaries to their employees on H-1B, or hire local employees, if they can keep the outsourcing business humming along. > Employing a few citizens/green card holders, doesn't mean it's not about money Well, it is about the money as in every business is about that. But these companies hire H-1Bs not to save money primarily. It is not clear to me from your comment wether you are agreeing or disagreeing with that.