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They are part of the same continuum. Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on the interaction of events, facts, ideas, and people that are t

They are part of the same continuum. Journalism is the production and distribution of reports on the interaction of events, facts, ideas, and people that are the "news of the day" and that impacts society to at least some degree. The word applies to the occupation (professional or not), the methods of gathering information, and the organizing literary styles. Journalistic media include: print, television, radio, Internet, and, in the past, newsreels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism

chiefalchemist 9y ago
So you're quoting Wikipedia to reference the definition of journalism? The irony of that is, for me, beyond imagination. Thanks for the laugh. Put another way...you're joking, right? Would you use the term doctor and x-ray tech interchangeably?
- ThomPete 9y ago
  Well if you want something else that says the same here is another link. If you don't think that fits with your own ideas then I am sorry I can't help you. "Journalism is the activity of gathering, assessing, creating, and presenting news and information. It is also the product of these activities." https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/journalism-essentials/what-is-journalism/makes-journalism-different-forms-communication/ https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/journalism-essentials... If you can get over your own arrogance I would be more than willing to engage in a discussion with you about what journalism is and isn't. But it does require actual arguments no just snarky comments.
  - chiefalchemist 9y ago
    Reporting and journalism are not the say thing. They are not synonyms. Yet, in a very Orwellian sort of way, that's how they are used. It's so effective that you are pushing back against me for stating the obvious. If that's what you consider arrogance then yes, we're done here. I can't help you. You're been sucked into the void.
    - ThomPete 9y ago
      The arrogance is that you aren't actually arguing your case you just keep repeating the same thing without anything to back it up. It might be your personal opinion that they should be separated but you haven't actually provided any evidence. I don't need your help as I am well aware of what journalism is and came to my conclusion based on my own thinking not on what I read. You on the other hand seems to be caught up in some conspiracy theory of your own making. You are basically saying that a launching a space ship and space travel is not the same thing which is a trivial and useless observation.
      - chiefalchemist 9y ago
        Two things: 1) There is no case to argue. Obviously, I am stating the obvious. The fact that you believe otherwise proves my point. This is, half-assed hacking reporting is not journalism. Maybe you're confused because what you've been told, and you've been buying into the hacks' spin that they're doing journalism 2) "NBC News announces Hoda Kotb..." That leaves me speechless. Laughing, but otherwise words cannot express how perfect this is for this discussion.
        ThomPete 9y ago
        I already provided you with links and explained the difference. That you still insist without providing anything but thruther rhetorics really says it all. I don't want to waste my evening debating with som Alex Jones clones. I can go to infowars if I want the "mainstream media is lying to you" speech. Have a great evening.
      - chiefalchemist 9y ago
        How about we try this? Watch the BBC World News. Watch the French sponsored news. Heck you can even watch RT. Then watch the non-local news of any of the major USA networks. Pay attention not only to how the work is done, but also the stories and topics covered or not. Notice too the substance vs fluff/noise ratio.

chiefalchemist 9y ago

So you're quoting Wikipedia to reference the definition of journalism? The irony of that is, for me, beyond imagination. Thanks for the laugh. Put another way...you're joking, right? Would you use the term doctor and x-ray tech interchangeably?

ThomPete 9y ago
Well if you want something else that says the same here is another link. If you don't think that fits with your own ideas then I am sorry I can't help you. "Journalism is the activity of gathering, assessing, creating, and presenting news and information. It is also the product of these activities." https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/journalism-essentials/what-is-journalism/makes-journalism-different-forms-communication/ https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/journalism-essentials... If you can get over your own arrogance I would be more than willing to engage in a discussion with you about what journalism is and isn't. But it does require actual arguments no just snarky comments.
- chiefalchemist 9y ago
  Reporting and journalism are not the say thing. They are not synonyms. Yet, in a very Orwellian sort of way, that's how they are used. It's so effective that you are pushing back against me for stating the obvious. If that's what you consider arrogance then yes, we're done here. I can't help you. You're been sucked into the void.
  - ThomPete 9y ago
    The arrogance is that you aren't actually arguing your case you just keep repeating the same thing without anything to back it up. It might be your personal opinion that they should be separated but you haven't actually provided any evidence. I don't need your help as I am well aware of what journalism is and came to my conclusion based on my own thinking not on what I read. You on the other hand seems to be caught up in some conspiracy theory of your own making. You are basically saying that a launching a space ship and space travel is not the same thing which is a trivial and useless observation.
    - chiefalchemist 9y ago
      Two things: 1) There is no case to argue. Obviously, I am stating the obvious. The fact that you believe otherwise proves my point. This is, half-assed hacking reporting is not journalism. Maybe you're confused because what you've been told, and you've been buying into the hacks' spin that they're doing journalism 2) "NBC News announces Hoda Kotb..." That leaves me speechless. Laughing, but otherwise words cannot express how perfect this is for this discussion.
      - ThomPete 9y ago
        I already provided you with links and explained the difference. That you still insist without providing anything but thruther rhetorics really says it all. I don't want to waste my evening debating with som Alex Jones clones. I can go to infowars if I want the "mainstream media is lying to you" speech. Have a great evening.
    - chiefalchemist 9y ago
      How about we try this? Watch the BBC World News. Watch the French sponsored news. Heck you can even watch RT. Then watch the non-local news of any of the major USA networks. Pay attention not only to how the work is done, but also the stories and topics covered or not. Notice too the substance vs fluff/noise ratio.