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> they made a mutually beneficial agreement No they didn't make any agreement. They made a proposal. Google has been advocating pure net neutrality on landline

> they made a mutually beneficial agreement No they didn't make any agreement. They made a proposal. Google has been advocating pure net neutrality on landline and wireless for the last 10 years. They've been rejected by the FCC, the telcos and the governement. After 10 years of getting nowhere, they are trying to get net neutrality on landline at least because right now there are no laws at all protecting net neutrality, wireless or not. No one has pushed as hard as Google for pure net neutrality, but after 10 years, Google needed to get real and face reality, no laws are going to get passed on pure/absolute net neutraliy, so they went for this proposal instead. Call them evil if you want... > You assert your opinion without giving an explanation So do you.

alecco 16y ago
>> they made a mutually beneficial agreement > No they didn't make any agreement. Oh, come on, don't play the words. You know I meant they agreed on a compromise that is mutually beneficial so they started pushing a joint proposal. The context is very relevant: Verizon and Google are selling android phones at an unprecedented scale (save iPhones.) Google was the #1 lobbyist of Net Neutrality and Verizon is the second largest telco, lobbying against. Googles "facts" press release was signed by a former MCI attorney (Verizon subsidiary.) I seriously doubt the telcos will stop at this. Just one example, why would Google care to defend against P2P throttling? (Say, P2P video like Skype calls, the same kind of competitor they are already throttling or blocking.)
- patrickaljord 16y ago
  > You know I meant they agreed on a compromise that is mutually beneficial In what way not having net neutrality on wireless is beneficial to Google? > why would Google care to defend against P2P throttling? They do care on landline, on wireless there is not much they can do. They tried hard for the last 10 years but failed as nobody supported them (FCC, telcos and gov). So they are trying to at least get net neutrality on landline. Again, after ten years of battling for net neutrality, what do we have today? Nothing, not a single law to defend it. Google realized that it was not going to happen after lobying for it for years, so they at least are trying to get it on landline while putting wireless on hold (temporarily as the proposal says). What have you done to defend net neutrality?
  - alecco 16y ago
    Ad hominem, I'm not going to bother to answer that.

alecco 16y ago

>> they made a mutually beneficial agreement > No they didn't make any agreement. Oh, come on, don't play the words. You know I meant they agreed on a compromise that is mutually beneficial so they started pushing a joint proposal. The context is very relevant: Verizon and Google are selling android phones at an unprecedented scale (save iPhones.) Google was the #1 lobbyist of Net Neutrality and Verizon is the second largest telco, lobbying against. Googles "facts" press release was signed by a former MCI attorney (Verizon subsidiary.) I seriously doubt the telcos will stop at this. Just one example, why would Google care to defend against P2P throttling? (Say, P2P video like Skype calls, the same kind of competitor they are already throttling or blocking.)

patrickaljord 16y ago
> You know I meant they agreed on a compromise that is mutually beneficial In what way not having net neutrality on wireless is beneficial to Google? > why would Google care to defend against P2P throttling? They do care on landline, on wireless there is not much they can do. They tried hard for the last 10 years but failed as nobody supported them (FCC, telcos and gov). So they are trying to at least get net neutrality on landline. Again, after ten years of battling for net neutrality, what do we have today? Nothing, not a single law to defend it. Google realized that it was not going to happen after lobying for it for years, so they at least are trying to get it on landline while putting wireless on hold (temporarily as the proposal says). What have you done to defend net neutrality?
- alecco 16y ago
  Ad hominem, I'm not going to bother to answer that.