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Wow, you're really dismissing the power of propaganda? You really don't think people seeing anti-hillary memes and posts on Facebook from Russian trolls all day

Wow, you're really dismissing the power of propaganda? You really don't think people seeing anti-hillary memes and posts on Facebook from Russian trolls all day didn't have a huge effect? You're seriously underestimating the power of "advertising".

ihsw2 9y ago
Hillary lost the election. She was handed the presidency on the silver platter and she was so unappealing on so many levels that the Democrats' popularity cratered with key constituents. The arrogance of progressive supremacists knows no bounds.
rdtsc 9y ago
> You really don't think people seeing anti-hillary memes and posts on Facebook from Russian trolls all day didn't have a huge effect? What effect do you think it had? Do you think Hillary with $1.5B budget lost the election because of $100k Facebook ads?
- specialist 9y ago
  Ya, I'm skeptical too. Let's say those foreign ads flipped 40k votes. That's statistical noise. But companies like Cambridge Analytics are only too happy to claim credit for having near supernatural powers. And obsessing over the margins keeps attention away from the huge, persistent, systemic, neglected problems. Amusing ourselves to death. More troubling are the rubes who fell for the protests / counterprotests organized by agitators.
mark_l_watson 9y ago
I am a Democrat: I think a small budget of FB ads was nothing compared to MSNBC killing the Sanders campaign. That was much more outrageous.
- rdtsc 9y ago
  > I think a small budget of FB ads was nothing compared to MSNBC killing the Sanders campaign. That was much more outrageous. Yeah I remember the media silence. Also, I think the remarkable thing was not that Hillary won in the primaries but how many votes Sanders got despite the silence. Here was an unnamed old white man that few have heard of before elections gathering so many enthusiastic young followers. The DNC and Clinton could have done more to bring back or incorporate some of Sanders' policies into Clinton's campaign or in general to be more welcoming towards Sanders' voters.

ihsw2 9y ago

Hillary lost the election. She was handed the presidency on the silver platter and she was so unappealing on so many levels that the Democrats' popularity cratered with key constituents. The arrogance of progressive supremacists knows no bounds.

rdtsc 9y ago

> You really don't think people seeing anti-hillary memes and posts on Facebook from Russian trolls all day didn't have a huge effect? What effect do you think it had? Do you think Hillary with $1.5B budget lost the election because of $100k Facebook ads?

specialist 9y ago
Ya, I'm skeptical too. Let's say those foreign ads flipped 40k votes. That's statistical noise. But companies like Cambridge Analytics are only too happy to claim credit for having near supernatural powers. And obsessing over the margins keeps attention away from the huge, persistent, systemic, neglected problems. Amusing ourselves to death. More troubling are the rubes who fell for the protests / counterprotests organized by agitators.

mark_l_watson 9y ago

I am a Democrat: I think a small budget of FB ads was nothing compared to MSNBC killing the Sanders campaign. That was much more outrageous.

rdtsc 9y ago
> I think a small budget of FB ads was nothing compared to MSNBC killing the Sanders campaign. That was much more outrageous. Yeah I remember the media silence. Also, I think the remarkable thing was not that Hillary won in the primaries but how many votes Sanders got despite the silence. Here was an unnamed old white man that few have heard of before elections gathering so many enthusiastic young followers. The DNC and Clinton could have done more to bring back or incorporate some of Sanders' policies into Clinton's campaign or in general to be more welcoming towards Sanders' voters.