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It's disingenuous to pretend that wasn't the intent - Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban (yes, he and his campaign called for that). https://www.washingtonpost.c

It's disingenuous to pretend that wasn't the intent - Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban (yes, he and his campaign called for that). https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/trump-asked-for-a-muslim-ban-giuliani-says-and-ordered-a-commission-to-do-it-legally/?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.fce82e37e07f https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/tr... http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-b... http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-muslim-ban-statement-website-2017-5 http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-muslim-ban-sta...

dominotw 9y ago
I am a muslim from India(one of the largest muslim countries in the world), i've travelled 2 times into Chicago since the ban. I think you are using some sort of slippery slope argument, "banning class of people" is not true today, we should just be assuming that is true based on intent? Intent is truth?
- Avshalom 9y ago
  We aren't reading his mind, we're listening to his words.
  - dominotw 9y ago
    I understand, I am not saying those are not his intents. I am saying why should we assume that its already the case when its clearly not. "banning whole class of people" is a false statement, right? Its really weird to say something bogus and say its true. Its like me saying "America has achieved complete energy independence" today because trump campaign promised it.
    - dashundchen 9y ago
      When we say Muslim ban, it's clear the policy was not a complete ban on Muslims entering the country, but we are talking about major travel ban specifically for countries for the sole reason they are Muslim majority. The basis of this ban is on religion - note that the initial order didn't permit the admittance of permanent residents and green card holders! Intent and words are crucial to determining the legality of the order. The Trump campaign ran on the specific idea of trying to ban Muslims from entering the country, despite their gaslighting attempts to argue otherwise.
      - ams6110 9y ago
        The reason given was that the countries were associated with terrorism.

dominotw 9y ago

I am a muslim from India(one of the largest muslim countries in the world), i've travelled 2 times into Chicago since the ban. I think you are using some sort of slippery slope argument, "banning class of people" is not true today, we should just be assuming that is true based on intent? Intent is truth?

Avshalom 9y ago
We aren't reading his mind, we're listening to his words.
- dominotw 9y ago
  I understand, I am not saying those are not his intents. I am saying why should we assume that its already the case when its clearly not. "banning whole class of people" is a false statement, right? Its really weird to say something bogus and say its true. Its like me saying "America has achieved complete energy independence" today because trump campaign promised it.
  - dashundchen 9y ago
    When we say Muslim ban, it's clear the policy was not a complete ban on Muslims entering the country, but we are talking about major travel ban specifically for countries for the sole reason they are Muslim majority. The basis of this ban is on religion - note that the initial order didn't permit the admittance of permanent residents and green card holders! Intent and words are crucial to determining the legality of the order. The Trump campaign ran on the specific idea of trying to ban Muslims from entering the country, despite their gaslighting attempts to argue otherwise.
    - ams6110 9y ago
      The reason given was that the countries were associated with terrorism.