3 ms·

It's unreasonable if it doesn't give you $250k + $50k a year in benefits and there are free alternatives available. There are some cases where it makes sense,

by amock 16y ago

It's unreasonable if it doesn't give you $250k + $50k a year in benefits and there are free alternatives available. There are some cases where it makes sense, but I think it's good to have a discussion about what kind of benefits it provides to make it worth the extra money.

houseabsolute 16y ago
Walking: free. Car: not free. Therefore walk everywhere since a free alternative is available? The thing is, 250k of benefits as two and a half engineers. I don't know Oracle software at all, but I imagine there are a number of use cases where their advantage over mysql would be at least that much.
- amock 16y ago
  Walking isn't always better, but it can be a viable alternative and there are options in between. As far as I know there is no cheap alternative to Oracle RAC, but I know that there are cases where using a combination of Hadoop and PostgreSQL can replace an Oracle DB.
  - bretpiatt 16y ago
    Seems like you agree with the existing point, "Walking (the free database alternative) isn't always better ... As far as I know there is no cheap alternative to Oracle RAC (the same point can be made to no cheap alternative for having a car which is better in some situations as you just agreed)." This doesn't mean the open source community should just give up on making a database capable of meeting the needs RAC does today -- at the same time it also doesn't mean business should only use the free alternative when it is a more efficient use of resources for them to purchase RAC.
    - amock 16y ago
      Yes, I agree with the existing point and was just adding some additional opinion.
pvg 16y ago
It might be good to have a discussion like that, in theory, at least. But I rather doubt posting Oracle's price list, context-free is some attempt to have or start a discussion. More likely, it's impressively unimaginative karma-whoring.

by amock 16y ago

houseabsolute 16y ago

Walking: free. Car: not free. Therefore walk everywhere since a free alternative is available? The thing is, 250k of benefits as two and a half engineers. I don't know Oracle software at all, but I imagine there are a number of use cases where their advantage over mysql would be at least that much.

amock 16y ago
Walking isn't always better, but it can be a viable alternative and there are options in between. As far as I know there is no cheap alternative to Oracle RAC, but I know that there are cases where using a combination of Hadoop and PostgreSQL can replace an Oracle DB.
- bretpiatt 16y ago
  Seems like you agree with the existing point, "Walking (the free database alternative) isn't always better ... As far as I know there is no cheap alternative to Oracle RAC (the same point can be made to no cheap alternative for having a car which is better in some situations as you just agreed)." This doesn't mean the open source community should just give up on making a database capable of meeting the needs RAC does today -- at the same time it also doesn't mean business should only use the free alternative when it is a more efficient use of resources for them to purchase RAC.
  - amock 16y ago
    Yes, I agree with the existing point and was just adding some additional opinion.

pvg 16y ago

It might be good to have a discussion like that, in theory, at least. But I rather doubt posting Oracle's price list, context-free is some attempt to have or start a discussion. More likely, it's impressively unimaginative karma-whoring.