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As a user, I can't think of any ads that would make me happy. As an unattractive person, I wouldn't want to see unattractive people in ads either. Seeing fat p

As a user, I can't think of any ads that would make me happy. As an unattractive person, I wouldn't want to see unattractive people in ads either. Seeing fat people wouldn't make me happier. (Why was this thread collapsed?)

macintux 9y ago
Notice how you equate fat with unattractive?
- aceofspad3s 9y ago
  Fat people are unattractive. I am fat and I am physically unattractive because of that. Thinking otherwise would be fooling myself. Being attracted to fat people is a kink, not the norm.
  - macintux 9y ago
    I'm not attracted to fat people. I'm attracted to attractive people. And there are, amazingly, attractive fat people, despite the cultural norm we've internalized.
    - aceofspad3s 9y ago
      I said PHYSICALLY attractive.
      - macintux 9y ago
        And I still assert it's a cultural norm that barrages of advertisement like this reinforce.
      - newscracker 9y ago
        In different times and in different cultures, fat people have been considered physically attractive and thinner/slimmer people considered unattractive. Now we live in a globalized world where many aspirations are sold wholesale across cultures and acceptance is manufactured to make it look like the norm.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > Being attracted to fat people is a kink, not the norm. Norms of attractiveness are social constructs that demonstrably change over time.
- askafriend 9y ago
  Yes because fat people are physically unattractive. Not only are they unattractive aesthetically, it’s just unhealthy and that’s far more of a factor in my opinion. My biological instinct is to find a mate who has the highest probability of successfully reproducing. So even in this regard, someone healthy fits the bill over someone unhealthy any day. Healthy people live longer, are able to more successfully reproduce and have less complications in general. Now should fat people in society be treated worse in terms of the opportunities they have? Absolutely not. But should society reward people for being fat? In my opinion, no, not explicitly. Being unhealthily fat is just as abnormal as being unhealthyily skinny. Normalizing either is probably misguided at best.
  - nunez 9y ago
    > Yes because fat people are physically unattractive. Not only are they unattractive aesthetically, it’s just unhealthy and that’s far more of a factor in my opinion. I think you’re wrong; bigger folks can totally be attractive. That they are unattractive to you is different.
    - askafriend 9y ago
      We can go back and forth on the aesthetics, but the health aspects are what ground us in natural reality and are probably why the norms played out like they did. Again, representing the extremes as norms is not great - I think we can both agree on this point at least. But if there was an ideal that I would rather society value - it would definitely err on the side of healthy and fit.
      - StavrosK 9y ago
        > are probably why the norms played out like they did. Cheap food is why the norms played out like they did. In places with less easy access to calories, fat is considered beautiful and thin ugly.
        askafriend 9y ago

macintux 9y ago

Notice how you equate fat with unattractive?

aceofspad3s 9y ago
Fat people are unattractive. I am fat and I am physically unattractive because of that. Thinking otherwise would be fooling myself. Being attracted to fat people is a kink, not the norm.
- macintux 9y ago
  I'm not attracted to fat people. I'm attracted to attractive people. And there are, amazingly, attractive fat people, despite the cultural norm we've internalized.
  - aceofspad3s 9y ago
    I said PHYSICALLY attractive.
    - macintux 9y ago
      And I still assert it's a cultural norm that barrages of advertisement like this reinforce.
    - newscracker 9y ago
      In different times and in different cultures, fat people have been considered physically attractive and thinner/slimmer people considered unattractive. Now we live in a globalized world where many aspirations are sold wholesale across cultures and acceptance is manufactured to make it look like the norm.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > Being attracted to fat people is a kink, not the norm. Norms of attractiveness are social constructs that demonstrably change over time.
askafriend 9y ago
Yes because fat people are physically unattractive. Not only are they unattractive aesthetically, it’s just unhealthy and that’s far more of a factor in my opinion. My biological instinct is to find a mate who has the highest probability of successfully reproducing. So even in this regard, someone healthy fits the bill over someone unhealthy any day. Healthy people live longer, are able to more successfully reproduce and have less complications in general. Now should fat people in society be treated worse in terms of the opportunities they have? Absolutely not. But should society reward people for being fat? In my opinion, no, not explicitly. Being unhealthily fat is just as abnormal as being unhealthyily skinny. Normalizing either is probably misguided at best.
- nunez 9y ago
  > Yes because fat people are physically unattractive. Not only are they unattractive aesthetically, it’s just unhealthy and that’s far more of a factor in my opinion. I think you’re wrong; bigger folks can totally be attractive. That they are unattractive to you is different.
  - askafriend 9y ago
    We can go back and forth on the aesthetics, but the health aspects are what ground us in natural reality and are probably why the norms played out like they did. Again, representing the extremes as norms is not great - I think we can both agree on this point at least. But if there was an ideal that I would rather society value - it would definitely err on the side of healthy and fit.
    - StavrosK 9y ago
      > are probably why the norms played out like they did. Cheap food is why the norms played out like they did. In places with less easy access to calories, fat is considered beautiful and thin ugly.
      - askafriend 9y ago