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I suspect on some level, Scott Adams likes the idea that all humans are “dirty, rotten liars” because it eases his fear that he might be more of a liar than som

I suspect on some level, Scott Adams likes the idea that all humans are “dirty, rotten liars” because it eases his fear that he might be more of a liar than some of his adversaries.

emerged 9y ago
The nice thing about this sort of accusation of projection is that you can use it literally any time you want to terminate a conversation! For example, I suspect that your suspecting that Scott Adams is projecting is projection on your part. Checkmate! I'm half joking, btw. So no offense intended.
kelukelugames 9y ago
haha, Scott Adams cracks me up. Adams blogged about persuasions and writing techniques for years. I learned a lot from reading those posts. Then he uses the same techniques to promote Trump. Which is fine. People can support whichever candidate. But Adams adamantly denied his support.
- olivermarks 9y ago
  I think the idea that Scott Adams is 'promoting trump' isn't helpful on a number of levels. He is very, very perceptive about humans and their failings, and brilliant at lampooning corporate and bureaucratic group cultures and rat races. I've learnt a lot reading his articles about the way the current crop of republican politicians are operating. He is one of the few people making sense and understanding the zeitgeist of half the American people. I'm not a trump fan fwiw, you can take this more in the Sun Zu sense: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
  - wavefunction 9y ago
    >the zeitgeist of half the American people I'd like to point out that this is wildly overstated. ~59.7% of eligible voters voters cast a ballot in 2016.[0] Of those votes cast, Donald Trump received ~46.1% of those votes or 62,979,879 votes.[1] So Donald Trump represents at the least the zeitgeist of ~27.5% of eligible voters. It's hard to determine how he represents the zeitgeist of non-voting-eligible inhabitants of the US but when you compare his popular vote total to the total population of the country, or ~323,100,000 in 2016, one can claim with certainty that Trump represents the zeitgeist of at least ~19.5% of the country. I point this out because it is often said that Donald Trump represents half the country, likely because he was the candidate of one of the two major political parties in this country and 1/2 is 50%. However repeating this falsehood of Trump representing the beliefs of half the country lends legitimacy to Trump and his agenda that is unearned and provides cover to people who would like to believe that the beliefs they share with Donald Trump enjoy some sort of popularity that is more widespread than can be justified. The same is true of course for Hillary Clinton and those Americans that cast their ballot for her, though of course the breakdown would be very slightly larger in her favor given her winning of the popular vote by some ~3,000,000 votes. [0]http://www.electproject.org/2016g http://www.electproject.org/2016g [1]http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-...
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  - kelukelugames 9y ago
    That's the beauty of Adams writing. It allows deniability by him and his fans.
bitL 9y ago
It might be the effect of somebody pure realizing that they were coned their whole life by people around them, something that can't be unseen and that would make them observe this daily everywhere. Like when an asteroid gets too close to Sun, it gets ejected in huge speed away, changing its "life trajectory" forever. Even when one starts meditating about their own decisions and their internal movers, it's easy to spot those "unpure" motivations and work on them. Then one can become sensitive and perceive which humans do the good struggle and which don't care and just go with the broken flow.
johansch 9y ago
I bought some book of his in the late 90s and upon reading it kind of quickly realized he was pretty much a grade A douchebag. It was a shock, I remember. How could a douchebag be the creator of Dilbert?
rdtsc 9y ago
> he might be more of a liar than some of his adversaries. It's a funny comic and it doesn't need to be taken literally. That is it exaggerates to tell a story. You do know what Dilbert is, right? How did we end up going from that to maybe "Scot Adams" is a dirty, rotten liar? Do you know some extra info about him to support it. As an author one doesn't necessarily have identify with all the characters and ideas in the story. For example I might not like or enjoy potty humor but my kids like it, so I'll tell them jokes to amuse them because I enjoy seeing them laugh. Doesn't mean I am a dirty liar.

I suspect on some level, Scott Adams likes the idea that all humans are “dirty, rotten liars” because it eases his fear that he might be more of a liar than some of his adversaries.

emerged 9y ago

The nice thing about this sort of accusation of projection is that you can use it literally any time you want to terminate a conversation! For example, I suspect that your suspecting that Scott Adams is projecting is projection on your part. Checkmate! I'm half joking, btw. So no offense intended.

kelukelugames 9y ago

haha, Scott Adams cracks me up. Adams blogged about persuasions and writing techniques for years. I learned a lot from reading those posts. Then he uses the same techniques to promote Trump. Which is fine. People can support whichever candidate. But Adams adamantly denied his support.

olivermarks 9y ago
I think the idea that Scott Adams is 'promoting trump' isn't helpful on a number of levels. He is very, very perceptive about humans and their failings, and brilliant at lampooning corporate and bureaucratic group cultures and rat races. I've learnt a lot reading his articles about the way the current crop of republican politicians are operating. He is one of the few people making sense and understanding the zeitgeist of half the American people. I'm not a trump fan fwiw, you can take this more in the Sun Zu sense: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
- wavefunction 9y ago
  >the zeitgeist of half the American people I'd like to point out that this is wildly overstated. ~59.7% of eligible voters voters cast a ballot in 2016.[0] Of those votes cast, Donald Trump received ~46.1% of those votes or 62,979,879 votes.[1] So Donald Trump represents at the least the zeitgeist of ~27.5% of eligible voters. It's hard to determine how he represents the zeitgeist of non-voting-eligible inhabitants of the US but when you compare his popular vote total to the total population of the country, or ~323,100,000 in 2016, one can claim with certainty that Trump represents the zeitgeist of at least ~19.5% of the country. I point this out because it is often said that Donald Trump represents half the country, likely because he was the candidate of one of the two major political parties in this country and 1/2 is 50%. However repeating this falsehood of Trump representing the beliefs of half the country lends legitimacy to Trump and his agenda that is unearned and provides cover to people who would like to believe that the beliefs they share with Donald Trump enjoy some sort of popularity that is more widespread than can be justified. The same is true of course for Hillary Clinton and those Americans that cast their ballot for her, though of course the breakdown would be very slightly larger in her favor given her winning of the popular vote by some ~3,000,000 votes. [0]http://www.electproject.org/2016g http://www.electproject.org/2016g [1]http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-...
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- kelukelugames 9y ago
  That's the beauty of Adams writing. It allows deniability by him and his fans.

bitL 9y ago

It might be the effect of somebody pure realizing that they were coned their whole life by people around them, something that can't be unseen and that would make them observe this daily everywhere. Like when an asteroid gets too close to Sun, it gets ejected in huge speed away, changing its "life trajectory" forever. Even when one starts meditating about their own decisions and their internal movers, it's easy to spot those "unpure" motivations and work on them. Then one can become sensitive and perceive which humans do the good struggle and which don't care and just go with the broken flow.

johansch 9y ago

I bought some book of his in the late 90s and upon reading it kind of quickly realized he was pretty much a grade A douchebag. It was a shock, I remember. How could a douchebag be the creator of Dilbert?

rdtsc 9y ago

> he might be more of a liar than some of his adversaries. It's a funny comic and it doesn't need to be taken literally. That is it exaggerates to tell a story. You do know what Dilbert is, right? How did we end up going from that to maybe "Scot Adams" is a dirty, rotten liar? Do you know some extra info about him to support it. As an author one doesn't necessarily have identify with all the characters and ideas in the story. For example I might not like or enjoy potty humor but my kids like it, so I'll tell them jokes to amuse them because I enjoy seeing them laugh. Doesn't mean I am a dirty liar.