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> And in fact, in this case, the officer who fired a weapon is, to my way of thinking, the only person at fault for this murder. You seem to be completely disa

> And in fact, in this case, the officer who fired a weapon is, to my way of thinking, the only person at fault for this murder. You seem to be completely disagreeing with this statement when you later agree that "The caller is certainly an asshole and is even culpable for homicidal intent" and "when the state murders someone, it's the state's fault" Who hired the police officer? Who makes the standards for police training? Who is the "CoD swatting community"? Who is the ACTUAL person that called in this specific swatting? Also... We need a society where incorrect information given to open, authless APIs never leads to anyone's death. What the heck? Imagine this scenario: 911 What's your emergency? Caller) I'm wearing blue jacket & red hat in Terminal 2B at the airport and will detonate a bomb killing everyone at the airport in 10 minutes. Can you suggest to me how this ends well? Is it real? Is it fake? You have 10 minutes to make a decision here. Are you going to have your officers walk in without guns to make sure no one accidentally gets killed?

jMyles 9y ago
> You seem to be completely disagreeing with this statement when you later agree that "The caller is certainly an asshole and is even culpable for homicidal intent" and "when the state murders someone, it's the state's fault" I'm saying that, even though this person had homicidal intent, they did not commit murder - the police officer did that part. > Caller) I'm wearing blue jacket & red hat in Terminal 2B at the airport and will detonate a bomb killing everyone at the airport in 10 minutes. > Can you suggest to me how this ends well? Is it real? Is it fake? You have 10 minutes to make a decision here. Are you going to have your officers walk in without guns to make sure no one accidentally gets killed? I don't think that Hollywood-inspired hypotheticals have any place in the architecture of an emergency response system. Incidents like the one you describe are rare enough not to need any specialized protocol at all, so a more general protocol of investigation and verification applies. In an age where cameras are everywhere - including in the pocket of every person in Terminal 2B - a great deal of investigation and verification can happen in 60 seconds.

jMyles 9y ago

> You seem to be completely disagreeing with this statement when you later agree that "The caller is certainly an asshole and is even culpable for homicidal intent" and "when the state murders someone, it's the state's fault" I'm saying that, even though this person had homicidal intent, they did not commit murder - the police officer did that part. > Caller) I'm wearing blue jacket & red hat in Terminal 2B at the airport and will detonate a bomb killing everyone at the airport in 10 minutes. > Can you suggest to me how this ends well? Is it real? Is it fake? You have 10 minutes to make a decision here. Are you going to have your officers walk in without guns to make sure no one accidentally gets killed? I don't think that Hollywood-inspired hypotheticals have any place in the architecture of an emergency response system. Incidents like the one you describe are rare enough not to need any specialized protocol at all, so a more general protocol of investigation and verification applies. In an age where cameras are everywhere - including in the pocket of every person in Terminal 2B - a great deal of investigation and verification can happen in 60 seconds.