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Also available on GOG: https://www.gog.com/game/tis100 https://www.gog.com/game/tis100 if you don't like adding DRM to a DRM-free game by purchasing through Ste

Also available on GOG: https://www.gog.com/game/tis100 https://www.gog.com/game/tis100 if you don't like adding DRM to a DRM-free game by purchasing through Steam. I bought TIS-100 through Steam years ago, only had it a few days before they decided to suspend my account for 2 weeks and take away all the games I purchased. They we're all on sale when I bought them originally but the sales were over by the time I got my account back. I finally got TIS-100 back last week through GOG because I happened to see it and it was half-off (would have bought it anyway). Can't wait to finish it.

kungtotte 9y ago
So why did you get suspended and had your games taken away? Did it happen randomly?
- jasonkostempski 9y ago
  They never told me exactly. My guess was that I happened to use 3 different CCs, all in my name, to buy the 3 or 4 games I bought over my first few days having the account. I meant to say in my original comment that they did refund everything, so it wasn't as horrible as it could have been but I did miss out on the sale prices, a few weeks of not being able to play a game with my friends, and it left me with an ever-lasting bad taste for Steam and DRM in any form (which is good in the long run I suppose).
  - Moru 9y ago
    We have bought every game with a different e-card an no problems so far. This means at least 500 different cards. E-cards was a service where you could create a credit card with a fixed amount of money on for each buy, limiting the risk involved in giving out your card details on the net. Sadly they shut it down recently.
voltagex_ 9y ago
Do you have a small claims court where you are? Might be worth going through that - depending on how much the account is worth.
- jasonkostempski 9y ago
  I only had 3 or 4 games, they refunded the money. I only rebought 1 game after the incident because there was no alternative and I really wanted it. Now I wont buy anything else through steam, even if there's no other option.
voltagex_ 9y ago
Steam doesn't require DRM on games, publishers do.
- jasonkostempski 9y ago
  TIS-100 is DRM free, buying it through Steam is self-inflicted DRM, you won't be able to run the game without logging into Steam. Maybe there are some hoops you can jump through to get it to run, but I don't want to. I now have a stand-alone installer that I can run anywhere I want, even without internet, and I obtained it "legally".
  - pdpi 9y ago
    It’s more complicated than that. Steam is a distribution platform and you can get locked out of that, meaning you can’t (re)download purchased games. The DRM component, however, is optional, and at least some games (starbound is one, I believe) are distributed through steam without any DRM attached.
    - jasonkostempski 9y ago
      Someone bought me Starbound through Steam and I tried, maybe about a year ago, to run it outside of Steam, but couldnt get it to work properly. I'm sure it can but I'd just rather not deal with that.
      - briatx 9y ago
        The convenience factor of Steam is making the DRM argument moot. Even with titles that I have the option of downloading DRM free, say via Humble Bundle, I will still just go for the Steam key because it makes it easy.
        jasonkostempski 9y ago
        I don't think it makes the argument completely moot, especially for single-player, serverless games like TIS-100. I agree Steam is the most convenient platform out there. If they just took a little extra step to make sure DRM-free games would behave as expected (something like a download link to a guaranteed standalone installer that you can just back up and feel reasonably safe about having forever) in addition to the excellent convenience they already provide, no one could ever beat that level of service. Well, maybe someone could match it and not take 2 weeks to resolve an incorrectly flagged account issue that's immediately obvious to human eyes, then they'd have some competition.

kungtotte 9y ago

So why did you get suspended and had your games taken away? Did it happen randomly?

jasonkostempski 9y ago
They never told me exactly. My guess was that I happened to use 3 different CCs, all in my name, to buy the 3 or 4 games I bought over my first few days having the account. I meant to say in my original comment that they did refund everything, so it wasn't as horrible as it could have been but I did miss out on the sale prices, a few weeks of not being able to play a game with my friends, and it left me with an ever-lasting bad taste for Steam and DRM in any form (which is good in the long run I suppose).
- Moru 9y ago
  We have bought every game with a different e-card an no problems so far. This means at least 500 different cards. E-cards was a service where you could create a credit card with a fixed amount of money on for each buy, limiting the risk involved in giving out your card details on the net. Sadly they shut it down recently.

voltagex_ 9y ago

Do you have a small claims court where you are? Might be worth going through that - depending on how much the account is worth.

jasonkostempski 9y ago
I only had 3 or 4 games, they refunded the money. I only rebought 1 game after the incident because there was no alternative and I really wanted it. Now I wont buy anything else through steam, even if there's no other option.

voltagex_ 9y ago

Steam doesn't require DRM on games, publishers do.

jasonkostempski 9y ago
TIS-100 is DRM free, buying it through Steam is self-inflicted DRM, you won't be able to run the game without logging into Steam. Maybe there are some hoops you can jump through to get it to run, but I don't want to. I now have a stand-alone installer that I can run anywhere I want, even without internet, and I obtained it "legally".
- pdpi 9y ago
  It’s more complicated than that. Steam is a distribution platform and you can get locked out of that, meaning you can’t (re)download purchased games. The DRM component, however, is optional, and at least some games (starbound is one, I believe) are distributed through steam without any DRM attached.
  - jasonkostempski 9y ago
    Someone bought me Starbound through Steam and I tried, maybe about a year ago, to run it outside of Steam, but couldnt get it to work properly. I'm sure it can but I'd just rather not deal with that.
    - briatx 9y ago
      The convenience factor of Steam is making the DRM argument moot. Even with titles that I have the option of downloading DRM free, say via Humble Bundle, I will still just go for the Steam key because it makes it easy.
      - jasonkostempski 9y ago
        I don't think it makes the argument completely moot, especially for single-player, serverless games like TIS-100. I agree Steam is the most convenient platform out there. If they just took a little extra step to make sure DRM-free games would behave as expected (something like a download link to a guaranteed standalone installer that you can just back up and feel reasonably safe about having forever) in addition to the excellent convenience they already provide, no one could ever beat that level of service. Well, maybe someone could match it and not take 2 weeks to resolve an incorrectly flagged account issue that's immediately obvious to human eyes, then they'd have some competition.