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A caller just wasted the time of the SWAT unit. A SWAT unit shot an innocent man. It is very difficult for me to place both parties as "equally liable". Sure,

by r3bl 9y ago

A caller just wasted the time of the SWAT unit. A SWAT unit shot an innocent man. It is very difficult for me to place both parties as "equally liable". Sure, there should be a punishment for the caller, but he didn't kill an innocent man and it sure as hell wasn't his intention to. He just didn't think of the possible consequence. In no way, shape or form does that equal to "actually put a bullet in someone innocent", which is exactly what that officer did.

krapp 9y ago
>but he didn't kill an innocent man and it sure as hell wasn't his intention to. He just didn't think of the possible consequence. How do you know his intent, or what he thought?
- r3bl 9y ago
  Because it's a gaming community, so they're not really trying to shield their identities, which led to this article, in which I read the news first (note: different than the source of this thread): http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article192111974.html http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article192111974.html And there's also this in the WaPo, claiming the same social media content: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/30/why-a-twitter-user-claims-to-have-made-the-swatting-call-that-led-police-to-kill-a-man/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/3... Idiot that should face consequences, definitely. Had the intention of killing someone, highly doubt it.
  - bashinator 9y ago
    Didn't intent to kill someone, maybe. Didn't care if his actions caused deaths? Definitely.
sodosopa 9y ago
Swatting is a form of domestic terrorism. The caller wasn't someone trying to waste time, that was someone who wanted to potentially turn someone else's life upside down.
kazinator 9y ago
I can't fathom how someone can invite an armed squad to some location, under the pretense that a violent crime is in progress, and not have the slighest inkling about the ways things can go wrong in that situation.
chrismcb 9y ago
Felony murder. If someone does in the process of a crime being committed the person committing the crime can be charged with felony murder. I don't know the details of the case, so I can't comment on the SWAT officer. But the person illegally calling for SWAT should be charged.
ams6110 9y ago
Not thinking of consequences does not absolve one from responsibilities.
bashinator 9y ago
He intentionally created a situation where it was very possible and forseeable that innocent people could be be killed. I believe that's more serious than voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.

by r3bl 9y ago

krapp 9y ago

>but he didn't kill an innocent man and it sure as hell wasn't his intention to. He just didn't think of the possible consequence. How do you know his intent, or what he thought?

r3bl 9y ago
Because it's a gaming community, so they're not really trying to shield their identities, which led to this article, in which I read the news first (note: different than the source of this thread): http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article192111974.html http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article192111974.html And there's also this in the WaPo, claiming the same social media content: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/30/why-a-twitter-user-claims-to-have-made-the-swatting-call-that-led-police-to-kill-a-man/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/3... Idiot that should face consequences, definitely. Had the intention of killing someone, highly doubt it.
- bashinator 9y ago
  Didn't intent to kill someone, maybe. Didn't care if his actions caused deaths? Definitely.

sodosopa 9y ago

Swatting is a form of domestic terrorism. The caller wasn't someone trying to waste time, that was someone who wanted to potentially turn someone else's life upside down.

kazinator 9y ago

I can't fathom how someone can invite an armed squad to some location, under the pretense that a violent crime is in progress, and not have the slighest inkling about the ways things can go wrong in that situation.

chrismcb 9y ago

Felony murder. If someone does in the process of a crime being committed the person committing the crime can be charged with felony murder. I don't know the details of the case, so I can't comment on the SWAT officer. But the person illegally calling for SWAT should be charged.

ams6110 9y ago

Not thinking of consequences does not absolve one from responsibilities.

bashinator 9y ago

He intentionally created a situation where it was very possible and forseeable that innocent people could be be killed. I believe that's more serious than voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.