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Yea this answer is total and utter crap. We aren't asking law enforcement to be super human, we want them to be educated and competent. The fact that the U.S is
by computerex 9y ago
Yea this answer is total and utter crap. We aren't asking law enforcement to be super human, we want them to be educated and competent. The fact that the U.S is both lacking in training and competence is a well established fact. Law enforcement in the United States has proven itself to lack training and discipline by firing on innocent unarmed citizens many many times. I don't believe any other country in the world has this problem to our extent. We have a very dangerously trigger happy law enforcement. These issues correlate with lack of training. Civil crime is not like a battlefield, people should be presumed innocent until proven guilty as is law. If someone can't handle this reality, they shouldn't be allowed to wield a weapon that kills. With great force and power comes responsibility. We should be far more selective at the type of people that can go into law enforcement, only those with a grounded temperament and proven track record should be allowed to use deadly force after extensive training. In the U.S, any Joe shmoe hungry for a power trip can attain a legal license to kill by going in law enforcement. That is the actual problem.
I'd love to hear an actual solution or alternative if you have one. But the U.S isn't a special snowflake. It should take a leaf from other countries like Germany, England and France and foster a strong culture of policing by consent rather than the bullshit we have right now.
Also when was the last time an American white law enforcement agent was imprisoned for discharging his or her weapon on an unarmed suspect?
- rdiddly 9y agoActual solution or alternative: You and tons more people like you, should apply for jobs in law enforcement, work your way up into leadership, and change policy.
- thatcat 9y agoHow is this the solution? Wouldn't the selection process of any bureaucracy be designed specifically to 'weed out' people like this?
- rrix2 9y agoYes, and that seems like a fairly likely reason that police agencies are by and large ossified in to this sort of behavior
- SOLAR_FIELDS 9y agoMy brother, quite an intelligent person, attempted to do just that at least three times but no law enforcement agency would admit him (clean record). I am assuming this is because he made comments that to them seemed subversive in interviews.
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- rdiddly 9y agoYeah, I thought not.
- brandonmenc 9y agoHow about as a taxpayer who funds the police, I have a say in how they operate. No need to become a cop.
- prepend 9y agoMichael Slager was sentenced to 20 years for the shooting of Walter Scott, an unarmed suspect on December 7th. So it does happen that a cop (not sure if white cops get convicted less than black cops) goes to jail for shooting people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Walter_Scott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Walter_Scott
- scaryclam 9y agoThe murder charge was dropped in exchange for a guilty plea on civil rights charges, which is what the 20 years was for. Even with an eye witness and a clear tape of the offense the officer still wasn't convicted of murder.
- jack9 9y ago> Yea this answer is total and utter crap. We aren't asking law enforcement to be super human, we want them to be educated and competent. That wasn't an answer and it is well reasoned. Saying "nuh uh" as a red herring to put forth what excuses you believe, frankly, is not compelling.
- computerex 9y agoI am not sure what point you are trying to make, but what you quoted wasn't my answer in its entirety. The parent made the assertion that we are asking police officers to be super human and I was disagreeing with that and the rest of the answer goes on to explain why.
- jack9 9y agoThe why amounts to you knowing a special incantation that nobody in the US has otherwise stumbled upon. The assertion remains less compelling than the rational explanation that I first heard in the 80s (the context of that is important). Computerx didnt just originate that thought, further demonstrating your lack of knowledge.