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How is that in any way relevant? How does that at all mean that black people better understand black people, or justify explicitly selecting a jury on the basis

How is that in any way relevant? How does that at all mean that black people better understand black people, or justify explicitly selecting a jury on the basis of something arbitrary like skin color?

QAPereo 9y ago
I’m saying that if you want to build a post racial world, it’s not enough for the historical beneficiaries of the previous system to just say, “all done now!” A few hundred years of treating people as though they were less than human based on the color of their skin has lasting consequences requiring repair. It’s not enough to simply acknowledge past misdeeds, while benefiting from generations of abuse and marginalization which you have no intention to address. Of course that assumes you really think that most people are as marvelously rational as you.
- PrimHelios 9y ago
  So build a post-racial world by building up racial barriers and continuing the "other"-ness of people with different skin colors? I'm not trying to be a dick or strawman you, that's the only thing I can get from this comment.
  - QAPereo 9y ago
    Build a post racial world by acknowledging that racial barriers exist independently of your thoughts, seek to weaken them and repair ongoing harm. The most powerful group playing pretend isn’t going to fix a damned thing. Trying to pretend that everything is better now... please explain how you see this working? Edit: Or just downvote and move on, that says something too.
    - PrimHelios 9y ago
      >Edit: Or just downvote and move on, that says something too. I have 224 karma, I don't even have the ability to downvote [0]. I'm sorry I have shit I need to do and can't respond to you immediately. [0]: https://imgur.com/a/5YnaY https://imgur.com/a/5YnaY (ignore the hilarious typo in this) EDIT: Funny how you claim I'm downvoting you, then when I say I'm not, you downvote and flag me. That's beyond petty and childish.
    - linkregister 9y ago
      Note about HN down voting: when replying to a post, the parent poster cannot down vote you. The down vote you were awarded came from another commenter. At this time, this comment has positive karma. At any rate, complaining about down voting distracts from your very good point.
      - QAPereo 9y ago
        Fair enough, I’ll keep that in mind going forward. Thanks for taking the time to teach.

QAPereo 9y ago

I’m saying that if you want to build a post racial world, it’s not enough for the historical beneficiaries of the previous system to just say, “all done now!” A few hundred years of treating people as though they were less than human based on the color of their skin has lasting consequences requiring repair. It’s not enough to simply acknowledge past misdeeds, while benefiting from generations of abuse and marginalization which you have no intention to address. Of course that assumes you really think that most people are as marvelously rational as you.

PrimHelios 9y ago
So build a post-racial world by building up racial barriers and continuing the "other"-ness of people with different skin colors? I'm not trying to be a dick or strawman you, that's the only thing I can get from this comment.
- QAPereo 9y ago
  Build a post racial world by acknowledging that racial barriers exist independently of your thoughts, seek to weaken them and repair ongoing harm. The most powerful group playing pretend isn’t going to fix a damned thing. Trying to pretend that everything is better now... please explain how you see this working? Edit: Or just downvote and move on, that says something too.
  - PrimHelios 9y ago
    >Edit: Or just downvote and move on, that says something too. I have 224 karma, I don't even have the ability to downvote [0]. I'm sorry I have shit I need to do and can't respond to you immediately. [0]: https://imgur.com/a/5YnaY https://imgur.com/a/5YnaY (ignore the hilarious typo in this) EDIT: Funny how you claim I'm downvoting you, then when I say I'm not, you downvote and flag me. That's beyond petty and childish.
  - linkregister 9y ago
    Note about HN down voting: when replying to a post, the parent poster cannot down vote you. The down vote you were awarded came from another commenter. At this time, this comment has positive karma. At any rate, complaining about down voting distracts from your very good point.
    - QAPereo 9y ago
      Fair enough, I’ll keep that in mind going forward. Thanks for taking the time to teach.