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It is an old argument because communism can mean different things. What you mean with communism I would rather call more precisely real socialism [1] Now those
by legulere 9y ago
It is an old argument because communism can mean different things. What you mean with communism I would rather call more precisely real socialism [1]
Now those real socialist states had as their goal, or at least said so to achieve communism: "the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state" [2]
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_socialism
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
You could also ask:
How many millions more have to die before we overcome capitalism?
- geezerjay 9y ago> It is an old argument because communism can mean different things. Actually, it has a very concrete definition. The only thing that's flexible is where will communists move the goalpost when another downside or systemic problem is pointed out.
- 0x445442 9y agoOne can also state, WRT the US, that "real" capitalism hasn't existed and its closest approximation has been in steady decline for the last 125 years. Ergo, if we only tried "real" capitalism things would be so much better.
- legulere 9y agoIt does not work the other way around, as capitalism as a term was coined by socialists and communists to describe the then status quo.