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I mean, I get that we are discussing ADHD here, but you could have at least read the next sentence: > Adderall doesn’t “cure” the “disease” of ADHD, at least n

I mean, I get that we are discussing ADHD here, but you could have at least read the next sentence: > Adderall doesn’t “cure” the “disease” of ADHD, at least not in the same way penicillin cures syphilis. Adderall will give everyone better concentration, and we’ve judged that it’s okay for people with terrible concentration to use it to overcome their handicap, but not okay for people with already-fine concentration to use it to become superhuman.

russellbeattie 9y ago
I read it - the tone of the paragraph is that it's not really medication, but something like caffeine which you can give to everyone and it'll have the same effect. It doesn't work like that. The dose I take would make a non-ADHD person into an obsessive hyper-focused teeth-grinding mess, but it basically just makes me normal. Adderall is real medicine which cures a real problem.
- balfirevic 9y ago
  > but something like caffeine which you can give to everyone and it'll have the same effect Apparently, that is actually true (not the same magnitude of effect but the same kind of effect - better concentration). And it's not in any way contradictory to it also being a medication. > The dose I take would make a non-ADHD person into an obsessive hyper-focused teeth-grinding mess, but it basically just makes me normal. That is almost exactly what the quote above said. > Adderall is real medicine which cures a real problem. I honestly don't understand how you got the impression that the original article claimed otherwise.
- xorcist 9y ago
  No, that's a myth. Dosage varies from person to person, but "more ADHD" (as in more severe AHDH-related problems) does not equal higher tolerance.
- buttcoinslol 9y ago
  But it does work like that, and drug tolerance is why you can eat a 30mg XR and be normal and I would be flying off anything more than 5-10mg IR. Adderall has a lot of utility for regular people, it works exactly like caffeine. Eventually all that dopamine from the amphetamines is going to ruin all your receptors, hth.
- Yvain 9y ago
  "The dose I take would make a non-ADHD person into an obsessive hyper-focused teeth-grinding mess, but it basically just makes me normal. Adderall is real medicine which cures a real problem." I believe you, but couldn't you equally say "The dose of human growth hormone I take would turn a non-Chronic-Shortness-Syndrome person into a freakish giant, but it basically just makes me normal"?
- drngdds 9y ago
  What he's saying is that Adderall boosts anyone's ability to concentrate. The dose you take boosts your concentration levels from "really low" to "normal." It would boost a non-ADHD person's concentration levels from "normal" to "way overfocused."
always_good 9y ago
>I mean, I get that we are discussing ADHD here, but you could have at least read the next sentence Being condescending, especially towards people with a disorder, doesn't serve anything. Worse, people with disorders have to deal with this stuff all the time from other people. <To someone they know has depression, in front of the circle of friends> "Hey Peter, haven't seen you in a few weeks. Were you being sad again? ;D" It makes me cringe a bit to see that behavior here.

russellbeattie 9y ago

I read it - the tone of the paragraph is that it's not really medication, but something like caffeine which you can give to everyone and it'll have the same effect. It doesn't work like that. The dose I take would make a non-ADHD person into an obsessive hyper-focused teeth-grinding mess, but it basically just makes me normal. Adderall is real medicine which cures a real problem.

balfirevic 9y ago
> but something like caffeine which you can give to everyone and it'll have the same effect Apparently, that is actually true (not the same magnitude of effect but the same kind of effect - better concentration). And it's not in any way contradictory to it also being a medication. > The dose I take would make a non-ADHD person into an obsessive hyper-focused teeth-grinding mess, but it basically just makes me normal. That is almost exactly what the quote above said. > Adderall is real medicine which cures a real problem. I honestly don't understand how you got the impression that the original article claimed otherwise.
xorcist 9y ago
No, that's a myth. Dosage varies from person to person, but "more ADHD" (as in more severe AHDH-related problems) does not equal higher tolerance.
buttcoinslol 9y ago
But it does work like that, and drug tolerance is why you can eat a 30mg XR and be normal and I would be flying off anything more than 5-10mg IR. Adderall has a lot of utility for regular people, it works exactly like caffeine. Eventually all that dopamine from the amphetamines is going to ruin all your receptors, hth.
Yvain 9y ago
"The dose I take would make a non-ADHD person into an obsessive hyper-focused teeth-grinding mess, but it basically just makes me normal. Adderall is real medicine which cures a real problem." I believe you, but couldn't you equally say "The dose of human growth hormone I take would turn a non-Chronic-Shortness-Syndrome person into a freakish giant, but it basically just makes me normal"?
drngdds 9y ago
What he's saying is that Adderall boosts anyone's ability to concentrate. The dose you take boosts your concentration levels from "really low" to "normal." It would boost a non-ADHD person's concentration levels from "normal" to "way overfocused."

always_good 9y ago

>I mean, I get that we are discussing ADHD here, but you could have at least read the next sentence Being condescending, especially towards people with a disorder, doesn't serve anything. Worse, people with disorders have to deal with this stuff all the time from other people. <To someone they know has depression, in front of the circle of friends> "Hey Peter, haven't seen you in a few weeks. Were you being sad again? ;D" It makes me cringe a bit to see that behavior here.