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Likewise this part... > Whisper no longer employs U.S.-based moderators. It uses a team in the Philippines along with machine-learning technology. Great that

by harryf 9y ago

Likewise this part... > Whisper no longer employs U.S.-based moderators. It uses a team in the Philippines along with machine-learning technology. Great that they moved the problem to a place with even fewer protections for workers. The underlying issue is seeing content moderation purely as cost that should be minimized. Taking YouTube Kids for example I'm sure you could sell parents products based around moderated content that educates their children, supports their morals and beliefs etc. i.e. find ways to generate enough income with moderated content to treat people fairly.

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ascorbic 9y ago
Toca Boca tried this with their Toca TV service, but it was discontinued because subscription rates were too low. If anyone could do it it should be them, having proven that it is possible to charge for kids' apps with no in app purchases. https://tocaboca.com/press-post/toca-tv-update/ https://tocaboca.com/press-post/toca-tv-update/
cgmg 9y ago
> Great that they moved the problem to a place with even fewer protections for workers. Are you saying such workers are better off without these jobs?
oscargrouch 9y ago
> Great that they moved the problem to a place with even fewer protections for workers. Other big problem with this is the lack of cultural background for doing this. Only if you belong to a given culture you can understand the subtleties and the cultural tolerance according to each culture. This is one of the things that should make us think, about how bad is the situation of centralized social networks, when the values of one culture can be arbitrarily imposed into another. People and cultures in general should have the right to organize according to their own cultural values. So the only right way to do this, at least if its a centrally managed network, is to have native people doing this for each country they have presence for. If this is too expensive to do it in the beggining .. maybe hire not just cheaper labor, but from countries (cultures) that have good sensibility about foreign cultures, and select the people with talent to understand cultural nuances. I feel particularlt outraged when according to a given foreign culture, one thing that locally is not a big deal, get censured, and then you think how close we are to the big brother (by the way theres a certain country already going through this path). But in the western hemisphere, if nothing change, we are slowly consolidating a regime of digital feudalism were corporations are free to dictate rules for our lives.

by harryf 9y ago

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ascorbic 9y ago

Toca Boca tried this with their Toca TV service, but it was discontinued because subscription rates were too low. If anyone could do it it should be them, having proven that it is possible to charge for kids' apps with no in app purchases. https://tocaboca.com/press-post/toca-tv-update/ https://tocaboca.com/press-post/toca-tv-update/

cgmg 9y ago

> Great that they moved the problem to a place with even fewer protections for workers. Are you saying such workers are better off without these jobs?

oscargrouch 9y ago

> Great that they moved the problem to a place with even fewer protections for workers. Other big problem with this is the lack of cultural background for doing this. Only if you belong to a given culture you can understand the subtleties and the cultural tolerance according to each culture. This is one of the things that should make us think, about how bad is the situation of centralized social networks, when the values of one culture can be arbitrarily imposed into another. People and cultures in general should have the right to organize according to their own cultural values. So the only right way to do this, at least if its a centrally managed network, is to have native people doing this for each country they have presence for. If this is too expensive to do it in the beggining .. maybe hire not just cheaper labor, but from countries (cultures) that have good sensibility about foreign cultures, and select the people with talent to understand cultural nuances. I feel particularlt outraged when according to a given foreign culture, one thing that locally is not a big deal, get censured, and then you think how close we are to the big brother (by the way theres a certain country already going through this path). But in the western hemisphere, if nothing change, we are slowly consolidating a regime of digital feudalism were corporations are free to dictate rules for our lives.