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When SWAT is deployed, the chances of someone getting injured are increased. Some gamers are calling in more SWAT false positives, leading to an increased like

When SWAT is deployed, the chances of someone getting injured are increased. Some gamers are calling in more SWAT false positives, leading to an increased likelihood of injury to the public. To begin, talk of swatting someone ought not be sanctioned on these communication channels. Mod down the comments or suspend their privileges/account. We agree, use of force is far to casual in the US, especially with the reduced rate of violent crimes. In the time being, we could also start dealing with the false positives directly. For example, while SWAT is gearing up, the operator could ask who is calling and how they learned of the issue. Without that information, the odds of a false report go up and the trigger bias should be going down.

abalone 9y ago
> For example, while SWAT is gearing up, the operator could ask who is calling and how they learned of the issue. How exactly would that help? Swatting is by definition fraudulent callers claiming to have firsthand knowledge of an issue -- in this case, he pretended to be a hostage taker.[1] Better hoax detection training is a fine idea but swatters are determined adversaries. It's going to take more than just asking a couple basic questions. And since real emergencies are often signaled by imperfect and limited inbound information, there is only so much that can be done to filter out false positives. I agree with Krebs that this is primarily a matter of police use-of-force training and stronger action against swatters.[2] [1] 911 recording starts at 10 minutes: https://www.pscp.tv/LJSNicholeManna/1lPKqponlzQxb?t=9m10s https://www.pscp.tv/LJSNicholeManna/1lPKqponlzQxb?t=9m10s [2] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/12/kansas-man-killed-in-swatting-attack/#more-42076 https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/12/kansas-man-killed-in-swa...
- yorwba 9y ago
  Shouldn't it be possible for the police to trace calls to 911? Sure, a serial swatter would use burner phones to hide their identity, but you can at least find out their position. If the phone is not in the same cell as the caller claims to be, that should be a huge red flag against deploying a SWAT team.

abalone 9y ago

> For example, while SWAT is gearing up, the operator could ask who is calling and how they learned of the issue. How exactly would that help? Swatting is by definition fraudulent callers claiming to have firsthand knowledge of an issue -- in this case, he pretended to be a hostage taker.[1] Better hoax detection training is a fine idea but swatters are determined adversaries. It's going to take more than just asking a couple basic questions. And since real emergencies are often signaled by imperfect and limited inbound information, there is only so much that can be done to filter out false positives. I agree with Krebs that this is primarily a matter of police use-of-force training and stronger action against swatters.[2] [1] 911 recording starts at 10 minutes: https://www.pscp.tv/LJSNicholeManna/1lPKqponlzQxb?t=9m10s https://www.pscp.tv/LJSNicholeManna/1lPKqponlzQxb?t=9m10s [2] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/12/kansas-man-killed-in-swatting-attack/#more-42076 https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/12/kansas-man-killed-in-swa...

yorwba 9y ago
Shouldn't it be possible for the police to trace calls to 911? Sure, a serial swatter would use burner phones to hide their identity, but you can at least find out their position. If the phone is not in the same cell as the caller claims to be, that should be a huge red flag against deploying a SWAT team.