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> guns, cars, explosives all of which are regulated, unlike calls to SWAT..

by Chris2048 9y ago

tptacek 9y ago
That's obviously not true (calling in false police reports was illegal long before SWAT-ing was a thing), but, what's your point?
- throwaway2048 9y ago
  I believe his point to be that there is zero oversight on when SWAT is deployed, remember the police made the choice to go in guns blazing ready to shoot people. The fact that a choice like that can be made without strong justification is pretty horrifying.
- Chris2048 9y ago
  Not only are murdering people with guns illegal, so are guns themselves regulated wrt possesion; ie the mechanism is regulated. In what sense is a call to SWAT regulated?
  - cornyNetHandle 9y ago
    In the very real sense that laws are regulations. Calls to SWAT are regulated through the law and backed by the force of the state. The mechanism is regulated by punitive measures after the fact, rather than some sort of regulatory filter, due to the nature of emergency telephone services.
    - Chris2048 9y ago
      Punative after the fact isn't regulation of the same kind. If this is due to the nature of the thing, then the thing is unlike guns explosives etc.
      - cornyNetHandle 9y ago
        Well, there are many kinds of regulation, as not all things are alike.
  - somebadguy 9y ago
    You’re too fucking stupid to be commenting here, sorry.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    I can't understand why this is down-voted. Maybe this is just an emotive issue; somebadguy's aggressive comment makes me think so. Guns, cars explosives etc are things, and it is possible to regulate their possession wrt individuals that may misuse them. A call to the police is a service, and is not the same kind of thing since anyone might witness a crime and need to call the police, even unreliable individuals; whereas few people need explosives (esp without a demonstrable need or credentials), and depriving an unreliable individual of e.g guns or a car, is unlikely to be as harmful to third-parties as limiting access to the services of the police.

> guns, cars, explosives all of which are regulated, unlike calls to SWAT..

That's obviously not true (calling in false police reports was illegal long before SWAT-ing was a thing), but, what's your point?

throwaway2048 9y ago
I believe his point to be that there is zero oversight on when SWAT is deployed, remember the police made the choice to go in guns blazing ready to shoot people. The fact that a choice like that can be made without strong justification is pretty horrifying.
Chris2048 9y ago
Not only are murdering people with guns illegal, so are guns themselves regulated wrt possesion; ie the mechanism is regulated. In what sense is a call to SWAT regulated?
- cornyNetHandle 9y ago
  In the very real sense that laws are regulations. Calls to SWAT are regulated through the law and backed by the force of the state. The mechanism is regulated by punitive measures after the fact, rather than some sort of regulatory filter, due to the nature of emergency telephone services.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    Punative after the fact isn't regulation of the same kind. If this is due to the nature of the thing, then the thing is unlike guns explosives etc.
    - cornyNetHandle 9y ago
      Well, there are many kinds of regulation, as not all things are alike.
- somebadguy 9y ago
  You’re too fucking stupid to be commenting here, sorry.
- Chris2048 9y ago
  I can't understand why this is down-voted. Maybe this is just an emotive issue; somebadguy's aggressive comment makes me think so. Guns, cars explosives etc are things, and it is possible to regulate their possession wrt individuals that may misuse them. A call to the police is a service, and is not the same kind of thing since anyone might witness a crime and need to call the police, even unreliable individuals; whereas few people need explosives (esp without a demonstrable need or credentials), and depriving an unreliable individual of e.g guns or a car, is unlikely to be as harmful to third-parties as limiting access to the services of the police.