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What I think goes unrecognized in the design community is what a tremendous skill it is to be able to put together really disparately styled and designed UX ele

What I think goes unrecognized in the design community is what a tremendous skill it is to be able to put together really disparately styled and designed UX elements into a cohesive whole. Pre Bootstrap / Material / whatever - I'd end up with designs that were just incoherent. You'd look at a modal, or a file upload or something and none of them individually were that awful, but as a whole they didn't fit together.

stephenboyd 9y ago
How often can you use Bootstrap components unaltered? I'm either working on things where aesthetics are important enough that I'd have to write custom CSS for every component, or where aesthetics are so unimportant that stylistic coherence is irrelevant. When I use things like Bootstrap it's as a scaffolding in the early stages of development before I write enough of my own CSS. Eventually then I've restyled all the Bootstrap components and I only keep it included to avoid spending 10 minutes re-implementing modals in JS.
- JonoBB 9y ago
  Isn't that the whole point of Bootstrap? It "bootstraps" your design to get you to a minimum coherent design with the least amount of fuss, and then allows (some would say forces) you to build on top it to customise as you see fit.
- chiefalchemist 9y ago
  FYI - This is why it's called Bootstrap. Why do people insist on knocking it for what it is. It's like whining about water being wet.
- tnolet 9y ago
  Overriding Bootstrap variables gets you 80% there. You can do a lot with changing padding, colors and fonts. I was very sceptical of Bootstrap from a design perspective but changed my mind after some deep diving into customization.
- michaelbuckbee 9y ago
  Actually a fair bit. When I was consulting, the apps were data entry/reporting type backend systems and Bootstrap was mostly sufficient. If it was user facing, I'd typically use a theme built on Bootstrap.
chiefalchemist 9y ago
I think you're part right. But it's only not recognized by those who need to recognize it the most ;)

stephenboyd 9y ago

How often can you use Bootstrap components unaltered? I'm either working on things where aesthetics are important enough that I'd have to write custom CSS for every component, or where aesthetics are so unimportant that stylistic coherence is irrelevant. When I use things like Bootstrap it's as a scaffolding in the early stages of development before I write enough of my own CSS. Eventually then I've restyled all the Bootstrap components and I only keep it included to avoid spending 10 minutes re-implementing modals in JS.

JonoBB 9y ago
Isn't that the whole point of Bootstrap? It "bootstraps" your design to get you to a minimum coherent design with the least amount of fuss, and then allows (some would say forces) you to build on top it to customise as you see fit.
chiefalchemist 9y ago
FYI - This is why it's called Bootstrap. Why do people insist on knocking it for what it is. It's like whining about water being wet.
tnolet 9y ago
Overriding Bootstrap variables gets you 80% there. You can do a lot with changing padding, colors and fonts. I was very sceptical of Bootstrap from a design perspective but changed my mind after some deep diving into customization.
michaelbuckbee 9y ago
Actually a fair bit. When I was consulting, the apps were data entry/reporting type backend systems and Bootstrap was mostly sufficient. If it was user facing, I'd typically use a theme built on Bootstrap.

chiefalchemist 9y ago

I think you're part right. But it's only not recognized by those who need to recognize it the most ;)