> Firstly, none of those examples are subtle. Who mentioned subtle? That's not even moving a goalpost, that's conjuring one out of thin air. > However the ass

> Firstly, none of those examples are subtle. Who mentioned subtle? That's not even moving a goalpost, that's conjuring one out of thin air. > However the association of candy bars and decadence didn't come from advertisers originally. Again: so? The point is they use it. The point of many ads being "inherently psychologically abusive" stands, and I count the space wasted on sophistry to try and wriggle out of that as further damage caused by it.