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What people are missing here is that while Apple now confess that they did slowdown the iPhone 6 and 6s when they released the 7, they are not saying anything a

by polack 9y ago

What people are missing here is that while Apple now confess that they did slowdown the iPhone 6 and 6s when they released the 7, they are not saying anything about earlier models. They are however lowering the price to exchange batteries even for older models. Why would they do that if they where not affected? Why don't they say this practice started with the IOS 10 update? They just say they did it in the 10 update. For me it's obvious this is just a PR "puff piece" and looks like a majority here is buying it... So well played Apple.

mthoms 9y ago
This was a perfect opportunity for Apple to come out and explicitly state they have never slowed phones down other than in this instance. That would certainly go a long way to restoring confidence. Instead they came out with a weasely-worded statement that is designed to give the impression that they only recently starting doing this. But... they don't actually make that claim. Apple lawyers are very good at what they do. Well played Apple indeed.
- hateduser2 9y ago
  Give me a break please. From the post: >First and foremost, we have never — and would never — do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades. Our goal has always been to create products that our customers love, and making iPhones last as long as possible is an important part of that. I see 0 weasel words or dodging here. Give me a break hacker news. Thanks.
  - mthoms 9y ago
    Notice all the qualifiers? Notice that the above statement, while technically truthful does not tell the whole story? This is not a time for vague promises IMHO, it's time for specific and clear statements. Why not just say you don't slow phones full stop?
    - hateduser2 9y ago
      What qualifiers? They said they haven’t and never would do anything to shorten or harm device life. That’s as direct as it gets. This isn’t a weasel word message, sorry.
      - misio 9y ago
        they would never do it "to drive customer upgrades". That isn't never do it. That's never do it for a single specific reason. Why add that clause? I guarantee no word in that statement is wasted on meaningless fluff.
abdelm 9y ago
The reduction in battery replacement is only for anyone with iPhone 6 or later, not older models. "Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com."
saagarjha 9y ago
> They are however lowering the price to exchange batteries even for older models. No, they’re not: > Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018.

by polack 9y ago

mthoms 9y ago

This was a perfect opportunity for Apple to come out and explicitly state they have never slowed phones down other than in this instance. That would certainly go a long way to restoring confidence. Instead they came out with a weasely-worded statement that is designed to give the impression that they only recently starting doing this. But... they don't actually make that claim. Apple lawyers are very good at what they do. Well played Apple indeed.

hateduser2 9y ago
Give me a break please. From the post: >First and foremost, we have never — and would never — do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades. Our goal has always been to create products that our customers love, and making iPhones last as long as possible is an important part of that. I see 0 weasel words or dodging here. Give me a break hacker news. Thanks.
- mthoms 9y ago
  Notice all the qualifiers? Notice that the above statement, while technically truthful does not tell the whole story? This is not a time for vague promises IMHO, it's time for specific and clear statements. Why not just say you don't slow phones full stop?
  - hateduser2 9y ago
    What qualifiers? They said they haven’t and never would do anything to shorten or harm device life. That’s as direct as it gets. This isn’t a weasel word message, sorry.
    - misio 9y ago
      they would never do it "to drive customer upgrades". That isn't never do it. That's never do it for a single specific reason. Why add that clause? I guarantee no word in that statement is wasted on meaningless fluff.

abdelm 9y ago

The reduction in battery replacement is only for anyone with iPhone 6 or later, not older models. "Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018. Details will be provided soon on apple.com."

saagarjha 9y ago

> They are however lowering the price to exchange batteries even for older models. No, they’re not: > Apple is reducing the price of an out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacement by $50 — from $79 to $29 — for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced, starting in late January and available worldwide through December 2018.