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This raised more questions than answers for me. What are we even talking about here? Economic theory? Political ideology? Philosophy? What exactly is anti-For

This raised more questions than answers for me. What are we even talking about here? Economic theory? Political ideology? Philosophy? What exactly is anti-Fordist, accelerationism, L/ACC, R/ACC and CCRU?

ansible 9y ago
If it is any consolation, I had the same reaction. I could look up all those terms, but I'm not interested enough to bother.
bufferoverflow 9y ago
That's what happens when someone wants to look/sound smart, but actually isn't - lots of jargon, piled like spaghetti, impossible to follow. Actual smart people are generally effective at explaining complex things succinctly and in simple terms.
- andybak 9y ago
  A bit harsh. He might be busy rather than a charlatan. I often err on the hand-wavey side when I don't have time to do the topic any justice. It was just a HN comment after all.
  - ansible 9y ago
    Yes. Though effective communication involves knowing who you are speaking too. I have a mental model about the typical HN reader. So, for example, I would not bother explaining the term 'container' in the context of application deployment. Even for devops who don't use containers, just hanging around here providers plenty of exposure to that concept. But in this case...
- pavel_lishin 9y ago
  It sounds like a lot of it is social circles. It's hard to explain social circles without using internal shorthand.
pheldagryph 9y ago
New for me, too. Looks like accelerationism is a bit of everything. Legitimate applied philosophy, I guess the communists were some early accelerationists. I feel like this is the link someone above me should have shared: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism#Contemporary_accelerationism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism#Contemporary_a... SEEMS LIKE philosophy-type sub-communities trying to figure out how to use all this new tech these past few decades to achieve 'post-capitalism'. Lots of room for different political tribes, in that direction. Tempted to check out a book related to this stuff, but I haven't exactly had my philosophical world rocked yet by anything I've read about it yet.

ansible 9y ago

If it is any consolation, I had the same reaction. I could look up all those terms, but I'm not interested enough to bother.

bufferoverflow 9y ago

That's what happens when someone wants to look/sound smart, but actually isn't - lots of jargon, piled like spaghetti, impossible to follow. Actual smart people are generally effective at explaining complex things succinctly and in simple terms.

andybak 9y ago
A bit harsh. He might be busy rather than a charlatan. I often err on the hand-wavey side when I don't have time to do the topic any justice. It was just a HN comment after all.
- ansible 9y ago
  Yes. Though effective communication involves knowing who you are speaking too. I have a mental model about the typical HN reader. So, for example, I would not bother explaining the term 'container' in the context of application deployment. Even for devops who don't use containers, just hanging around here providers plenty of exposure to that concept. But in this case...
pavel_lishin 9y ago
It sounds like a lot of it is social circles. It's hard to explain social circles without using internal shorthand.

pheldagryph 9y ago

New for me, too. Looks like accelerationism is a bit of everything. Legitimate applied philosophy, I guess the communists were some early accelerationists. I feel like this is the link someone above me should have shared: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism#Contemporary_accelerationism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism#Contemporary_a... SEEMS LIKE philosophy-type sub-communities trying to figure out how to use all this new tech these past few decades to achieve 'post-capitalism'. Lots of room for different political tribes, in that direction. Tempted to check out a book related to this stuff, but I haven't exactly had my philosophical world rocked yet by anything I've read about it yet.