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ChromeOS: How VM and Containers will seem to run

93 points by philips 9y ago

justinsb 9y ago
Is any of this enabled yet (even if only in the dev channels)? Being able to run arbitrary containers locally would make a Pixelbook a lot more powerful.
- jayd16 9y ago
  Yeah I'm in the market now and I'm looking for ways to justify dropping a grand on a Chromebook.
- krutzger 9y ago
  Technically, termux is a container although of a very different kind... But then again, you don't need a pixelbook to run that :(
  - jacksmith21006 9y ago
    Same with GNUroot which I prefer over Termux. They both run in a container using a fake Chroot.
kevin2r 9y ago
Being able to run Android Studio on a container would be really nice.
- menny 9y ago
  You mean like this: https://github.com/menny/docker_android/tree/master/android_studio https://github.com/menny/docker_android/tree/master/android_... I really hope that ChromeOS's way would be better.
xnx 9y ago
I always assumed this was why the Pixelbook was so gratuitously over-spec'ed.
- deleted 9y ago
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X-Istence 9y ago
I'd love to use my HP G1 for something other than browsing Imgur while I am watching the news at night :P
andr 9y ago
For context, ChromiumOS is already available on Google Cloud as their recommended Kubernetes host OS. Launching a new GCE instance gives me "Container-Optimized OS 63-10032.71.0 beta (ChromiumOS-4.4.86 Kubernetes: 1.7.8 Docker: 17.03.2)" among the other base images.
- twotwotwo 9y ago
  Oh, interesting. I see "Kernel: ChromiumOS-4.4.86" in the list and some of their docs on it have other cros-isms (/mnt/stateful_partition), and that version 63 lines up with Chrome. cros is sort of a surprising choice of upstream for a GCE thing, but I guess it is a hardened, public Linux kernel that Google already maintains. Makes everything confusing, though, since there are some commits specifically mentioning VMs and the codename for the Pixelbook (Eve), so something is happening there, but there's also an intersection with a whole other container-related project :/ I wouldn't mind if ARC, the Android subsystem, could live in a VM. Android apps can poke at a bunch of surface area that webpages can't.
Abishek_Muthian 9y ago
Considering Android apps run in containers in ChromeOS,I noticed that apps (media player) doesn't have HW acceleration support. Does the VM and Containers mentioned in OP, offer HW acceleration ?

93 points by philips 9y ago

Is any of this enabled yet (even if only in the dev channels)? Being able to run arbitrary containers locally would make a Pixelbook a lot more powerful.

jayd16 9y ago
Yeah I'm in the market now and I'm looking for ways to justify dropping a grand on a Chromebook.
krutzger 9y ago
Technically, termux is a container although of a very different kind... But then again, you don't need a pixelbook to run that :(
- jacksmith21006 9y ago
  Same with GNUroot which I prefer over Termux. They both run in a container using a fake Chroot.

kevin2r 9y ago

Being able to run Android Studio on a container would be really nice.

menny 9y ago
You mean like this: https://github.com/menny/docker_android/tree/master/android_studio https://github.com/menny/docker_android/tree/master/android_... I really hope that ChromeOS's way would be better.

xnx 9y ago

I always assumed this was why the Pixelbook was so gratuitously over-spec'ed.

deleted 9y ago
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X-Istence 9y ago

I'd love to use my HP G1 for something other than browsing Imgur while I am watching the news at night :P

andr 9y ago

For context, ChromiumOS is already available on Google Cloud as their recommended Kubernetes host OS. Launching a new GCE instance gives me "Container-Optimized OS 63-10032.71.0 beta (ChromiumOS-4.4.86 Kubernetes: 1.7.8 Docker: 17.03.2)" among the other base images.

twotwotwo 9y ago
Oh, interesting. I see "Kernel: ChromiumOS-4.4.86" in the list and some of their docs on it have other cros-isms (/mnt/stateful_partition), and that version 63 lines up with Chrome. cros is sort of a surprising choice of upstream for a GCE thing, but I guess it is a hardened, public Linux kernel that Google already maintains. Makes everything confusing, though, since there are some commits specifically mentioning VMs and the codename for the Pixelbook (Eve), so something is happening there, but there's also an intersection with a whole other container-related project :/ I wouldn't mind if ARC, the Android subsystem, could live in a VM. Android apps can poke at a bunch of surface area that webpages can't.

Abishek_Muthian 9y ago

Considering Android apps run in containers in ChromeOS,I noticed that apps (media player) doesn't have HW acceleration support. Does the VM and Containers mentioned in OP, offer HW acceleration ?