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>> You can easily build a comparable one for 1/4 of the price. Ok please show us the laptop that is 1/4 of the price of the same-specs MBP. Or how one could bu

>> You can easily build a comparable one for 1/4 of the price. Ok please show us the laptop that is 1/4 of the price of the same-specs MBP. Or how one could build one.

ProAm 9y ago
Just go spec it out for yourself. Im not doing a homework assignment for you to prove that Apple fleeces it's customers. Especially in regards to a discussion on how Apple quality has dropped so significantly over the past 8 years.
- carterehsmith 9y ago
  >> Just go spec it out for yourself. I do it like once a month, and this "3-4x" claim is strictly false. If you spec MBP versus Dell or HP or Lenovo or whatever with the same parts, Apple may be anything between 5%-30% more, nowhere near 300%-400% that you claim.
  - ProAm 9y ago
    Ive been following Apple for 10+ years and Im not wrong. Am I exact? No, but close enough. They used to charge you $100 to write software for your own iPhone. But a semantical argument isnt the one Im making.
    - carterehsmith 9y ago
      >> Im not wrong. Sure thing. Long as you remember to show us the laptop 3-4x cheaper than the equivalent MBP.
      - wor3q 9y ago
        Just look at amazon, Laptops with 7700hq and gtx1060 start at about $1k. Equivalent MBP cost almost $3k, while having ddr3 instead of ddr4 and way worse GPU that other vendors pair with this processor.
        carterehsmith 9y ago
        ... ok, I have trouble finding that, from Dell or Lenovo or HP or whoever I can actually buy and get warranty and whatever. BTW --- same parts --- 2GB+/sec SSD, comparable monitor, processor, graphics, battery life, Thunderbolt etc. If it is there I will (well, everyone would) obviously buy right away, but I have trouble finding it.
        wor3q 9y ago
        Have you actually looked at other laptops? True, most doesn't come with nvme ssd, but you can always upgrade (which you cannot on a macbook), processors and graphics are way better for half the price, and you usually get a matte screen in which you can actually see anything besides reflections.
- stephenr 9y ago
  > Im not doing a homework assignment for you You made a claim. If you can't back up that claim with some basic evidence, we tend to call that claim "bullshit". Given that other posts identify a laptop with a 1920x1080 display to a retina MacBook Pro, the concept of "equivalent" is clearly not the same for everyone.

>> You can easily build a comparable one for 1/4 of the price. Ok please show us the laptop that is 1/4 of the price of the same-specs MBP. Or how one could build one.

ProAm 9y ago

Just go spec it out for yourself. Im not doing a homework assignment for you to prove that Apple fleeces it's customers. Especially in regards to a discussion on how Apple quality has dropped so significantly over the past 8 years.

carterehsmith 9y ago
>> Just go spec it out for yourself. I do it like once a month, and this "3-4x" claim is strictly false. If you spec MBP versus Dell or HP or Lenovo or whatever with the same parts, Apple may be anything between 5%-30% more, nowhere near 300%-400% that you claim.
- ProAm 9y ago
  Ive been following Apple for 10+ years and Im not wrong. Am I exact? No, but close enough. They used to charge you $100 to write software for your own iPhone. But a semantical argument isnt the one Im making.
  - carterehsmith 9y ago
    >> Im not wrong. Sure thing. Long as you remember to show us the laptop 3-4x cheaper than the equivalent MBP.
    - wor3q 9y ago
      Just look at amazon, Laptops with 7700hq and gtx1060 start at about $1k. Equivalent MBP cost almost $3k, while having ddr3 instead of ddr4 and way worse GPU that other vendors pair with this processor.
      - carterehsmith 9y ago
        ... ok, I have trouble finding that, from Dell or Lenovo or HP or whoever I can actually buy and get warranty and whatever. BTW --- same parts --- 2GB+/sec SSD, comparable monitor, processor, graphics, battery life, Thunderbolt etc. If it is there I will (well, everyone would) obviously buy right away, but I have trouble finding it.
        wor3q 9y ago
        Have you actually looked at other laptops? True, most doesn't come with nvme ssd, but you can always upgrade (which you cannot on a macbook), processors and graphics are way better for half the price, and you usually get a matte screen in which you can actually see anything besides reflections.
stephenr 9y ago
> Im not doing a homework assignment for you You made a claim. If you can't back up that claim with some basic evidence, we tend to call that claim "bullshit". Given that other posts identify a laptop with a 1920x1080 display to a retina MacBook Pro, the concept of "equivalent" is clearly not the same for everyone.