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What I like about this series is that there’s a whole book on GUI which most other resources ignore. http://www.fysnet.net/the_graphical_user_interface.htm htt

What I like about this series is that there’s a whole book on GUI which most other resources ignore. http://www.fysnet.net/the_graphical_user_interface.htm http://www.fysnet.net/the_graphical_user_interface.htm

chrisseaton 9y ago
Have you read these books and are they reputable? The website seems a little... unconventional, and the books look like they're vanity published. But I have an open mind if they are indeed good.
- adamnemecek 9y ago
  Check the screenshots http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_1.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_1.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_2.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_2.png I skimmed some of them. They look pretty legit. They are self published, so they might look somewhat unconventional.
- anta40 9y ago
  I have the first 2 volumes. Bought them last year, but due to work, laziness, and other matters, I haven't finished reading them :p I'll post some pics of them once I arrive at home.
- userbinator 9y ago
  The website seems a little... unconventional ...as in "handwritten HTML with no bloat"? This is what all sites used to be like, very information-packed and free of fluff. When I come across sites like these, the content is almost certainly going to be very good.
  - chrisseaton 9y ago
    > ...as in "handwritten HTML with no bloat"? ... free of fluff Are we looking at the same page or are you being sarcastic? The one I'm looking at has a ring binder theme, lots of random low resolution icons and is basically just a wrapper for a big pre element so everything appears in an awkward typewriter font. Part of it looks like it's dynamically generated by JavaScript. I mean the chap is free to design his website however works best for him. I'm just saying that and the vanity publishing triggers my skepticism before buying the book and I was looking for opinions.
    - userbinator 9y ago
      Yes, we're looking at the same page and I'm not being sarcastic. Despite the images, the total size of the page and its assets is <64KB and it loads extremely quickly. For comparison, this page and its assets is >160KB and yet it contains a fraction of the content: http://faculty.salina.k-state.edu/tim/ossg/Introduction/design.html http://faculty.salina.k-state.edu/tim/ossg/Introduction/desi... I'm just saying that and the vanity publishing triggers my skepticism before buying the book and I was looking for opinions. I think the disparity of reaction between you and me shows how subjective design can be.
      - muthdra 9y ago
        You don't know what you're talking about. Chris spotted the developer's unfamiliarity with the web and he was right. 200ms: http handshake done. let's download this HTML page 207ms: ok the page is downloaded. let's see what it's all about 213ms: better look ahead and queue up all the files this page needs. it's a CSS file, a JS file and a bunch of PNGs 214ms: parses 9 lines. stops parsing. 217ms: CSS starts downloading! 220ms: JS starts downloading! 221ms: one of the PNGs starts downloading! nothing happens 384ms: CSS is done downloading :) 389ms: CSS is done parsing :) 405ms: the first PNG is done downloading :) At this point, I have loaded the all the HTML, CSS and even an image but not a single pixel will be drawn until the JS is done downloading and running. The problem here is not JavaScript, but render-blocking tags. This should be relevant: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4396849/does-the-script-tag-position-in-html-affects-performance-of-the-webpage https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4396849/does-the-script-... Why can't the website just load everything and then, only after showing you the contents of the page, run the necessary JavaScript? Probably because the developer never even thought about all of this. I don't blame him. He's not walking around saying his website is fine handcrafted HTML free of bloat or fluff. He's just making a website about his book. As a sidenote, you believing that this is a website that "loads extremely quickly" reminds me of Jonathan Blows's "there's generalized insanity about software and people often don't know what makes programs slow" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWv_vUgbmug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWv_vUgbmug )
        9y ago

chrisseaton 9y ago

Have you read these books and are they reputable? The website seems a little... unconventional, and the books look like they're vanity published. But I have an open mind if they are indeed good.

adamnemecek 9y ago
Check the screenshots http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_1.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_1.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_2.png http://www.fysnet.net/temp/vol6_gui_2.png I skimmed some of them. They look pretty legit. They are self published, so they might look somewhat unconventional.
anta40 9y ago
I have the first 2 volumes. Bought them last year, but due to work, laziness, and other matters, I haven't finished reading them :p I'll post some pics of them once I arrive at home.
userbinator 9y ago
The website seems a little... unconventional ...as in "handwritten HTML with no bloat"? This is what all sites used to be like, very information-packed and free of fluff. When I come across sites like these, the content is almost certainly going to be very good.
- chrisseaton 9y ago
  > ...as in "handwritten HTML with no bloat"? ... free of fluff Are we looking at the same page or are you being sarcastic? The one I'm looking at has a ring binder theme, lots of random low resolution icons and is basically just a wrapper for a big pre element so everything appears in an awkward typewriter font. Part of it looks like it's dynamically generated by JavaScript. I mean the chap is free to design his website however works best for him. I'm just saying that and the vanity publishing triggers my skepticism before buying the book and I was looking for opinions.
  - userbinator 9y ago
    Yes, we're looking at the same page and I'm not being sarcastic. Despite the images, the total size of the page and its assets is <64KB and it loads extremely quickly. For comparison, this page and its assets is >160KB and yet it contains a fraction of the content: http://faculty.salina.k-state.edu/tim/ossg/Introduction/design.html http://faculty.salina.k-state.edu/tim/ossg/Introduction/desi... I'm just saying that and the vanity publishing triggers my skepticism before buying the book and I was looking for opinions. I think the disparity of reaction between you and me shows how subjective design can be.
    - muthdra 9y ago
      You don't know what you're talking about. Chris spotted the developer's unfamiliarity with the web and he was right. 200ms: http handshake done. let's download this HTML page 207ms: ok the page is downloaded. let's see what it's all about 213ms: better look ahead and queue up all the files this page needs. it's a CSS file, a JS file and a bunch of PNGs 214ms: parses 9 lines. stops parsing. 217ms: CSS starts downloading! 220ms: JS starts downloading! 221ms: one of the PNGs starts downloading! nothing happens 384ms: CSS is done downloading :) 389ms: CSS is done parsing :) 405ms: the first PNG is done downloading :) At this point, I have loaded the all the HTML, CSS and even an image but not a single pixel will be drawn until the JS is done downloading and running. The problem here is not JavaScript, but render-blocking tags. This should be relevant: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4396849/does-the-script-tag-position-in-html-affects-performance-of-the-webpage https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4396849/does-the-script-... Why can't the website just load everything and then, only after showing you the contents of the page, run the necessary JavaScript? Probably because the developer never even thought about all of this. I don't blame him. He's not walking around saying his website is fine handcrafted HTML free of bloat or fluff. He's just making a website about his book. As a sidenote, you believing that this is a website that "loads extremely quickly" reminds me of Jonathan Blows's "there's generalized insanity about software and people often don't know what makes programs slow" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWv_vUgbmug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWv_vUgbmug )
      - 9y ago