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>they can just hire bodyguards Which won't be able to carry weapons in most places. You'll have a hard time finding people who'll fight back when you're being

>they can just hire bodyguards Which won't be able to carry weapons in most places. You'll have a hard time finding people who'll fight back when you're being kidnapped at gunpoint.

cglace 9y ago
With enough armed bodyguards you aren't going to be kidnapped at gunpoint. Why risk your life going after a hardened target when there are so many vulnerable ones. I imagine its quite easy to find mercenaries that are willing to fight back. There is an entire industry for hiring people to fight wars.
- ClassyJacket 9y ago
  I think their point was that that isn't legal in many places.
  - cglace 9y ago
    Don't go to those places. Or hire off duty police to escort you in those countries. Bill Browder can't eat at the same restaurant twice because his food may be poisoned. If you are a high profile target you have to change your patterns to remain safe.
- ryanlol 9y ago
  >With enough armed bodyguards you aren't going to be kidnapped at gunpoint. Okay, now the kidnappers dress up as cops and "arrest" you. Perhaps they bribe the actual cops to do it for them? Armed bodyguards do not seem like a substantial increase in difficulty for someone who intends to kidnap a person.
freeflight 9y ago
> Which won't be able to carry weapons in most places. Most places? Places like what? Even Germany, with its rather restrictive gun laws, has exemptions for private security companies allowing to carry weapons. While I don't know any specifics, I doubt that it's gonna be that much more difficult, in Eastern Europe out of all places, to get a legal carry permit.
- QAPereo 9y ago
  The current wave of crime in parts of the Ukraine is, I shit you not, grenade violence. I’m inclined to agree with you. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/world/europe/ukraine-grenades-crime.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/world/europe/ukraine-gren...
- walshemj 9y ago
  which is ironic as the RAF was a fairly hopeless terrorist organization that did not carry out many actions I met an old school mate years ago she was working as a PA for deutsche bank in the uk and she mentioned that the senior mangers where annoyed as the UK would not allow them to have armed body guards.

>they can just hire bodyguards Which won't be able to carry weapons in most places. You'll have a hard time finding people who'll fight back when you're being kidnapped at gunpoint.

cglace 9y ago

With enough armed bodyguards you aren't going to be kidnapped at gunpoint. Why risk your life going after a hardened target when there are so many vulnerable ones. I imagine its quite easy to find mercenaries that are willing to fight back. There is an entire industry for hiring people to fight wars.

ClassyJacket 9y ago
I think their point was that that isn't legal in many places.
- cglace 9y ago
  Don't go to those places. Or hire off duty police to escort you in those countries. Bill Browder can't eat at the same restaurant twice because his food may be poisoned. If you are a high profile target you have to change your patterns to remain safe.
ryanlol 9y ago
>With enough armed bodyguards you aren't going to be kidnapped at gunpoint. Okay, now the kidnappers dress up as cops and "arrest" you. Perhaps they bribe the actual cops to do it for them? Armed bodyguards do not seem like a substantial increase in difficulty for someone who intends to kidnap a person.

freeflight 9y ago

> Which won't be able to carry weapons in most places. Most places? Places like what? Even Germany, with its rather restrictive gun laws, has exemptions for private security companies allowing to carry weapons. While I don't know any specifics, I doubt that it's gonna be that much more difficult, in Eastern Europe out of all places, to get a legal carry permit.

QAPereo 9y ago
The current wave of crime in parts of the Ukraine is, I shit you not, grenade violence. I’m inclined to agree with you. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/world/europe/ukraine-grenades-crime.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/world/europe/ukraine-gren...
walshemj 9y ago
which is ironic as the RAF was a fairly hopeless terrorist organization that did not carry out many actions I met an old school mate years ago she was working as a PA for deutsche bank in the uk and she mentioned that the senior mangers where annoyed as the UK would not allow them to have armed body guards.