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The right thing is that people who replaced their deliberately slowed down iPhones with new iPhones because of their ignorance about what Apple had done, should

The right thing is that people who replaced their deliberately slowed down iPhones with new iPhones because of their ignorance about what Apple had done, should have an appropriate remedy not contained in this "we're sorry if you didn't understand that we care a lot about you" press release. It doesn't matter anyway, even though millions of similar batteries in Android phones apparently didn't require a similar secret performance degradation, we are still a long way from reaching the depths that Apple can go to before Apple fans will seriously consider an alternative.

bb88 9y ago
nitpick: "ignorance" puts the blame on the consumer -- in this case it's not their fault. > should have an appropriate remedy I think a lawsuit is appropriate.
rlanday 9y ago
> even though millions of similar batteries in Android phones apparently didn't require a similar secret performance degradation You know for sure how the power-management code works in every Android device ever produced?
- JesseObrien 9y ago
  > we are still a long way from reaching the depths that Apple can go to before Apple fans will seriously consider an alternative. You're literally proving the point here. There's much, much more transparency on the Android side of things. Custom ROMs and the stock Google Android images have been combed over for almost the last decade by loads of different individuals and groups around the world. Now, we surely don't control the Samsung-esque bloatware that they slap on top of stock Android, but there's absolutely no way there's throttling code that lives in Android that we don't know about yet. Anecdotal evidence of my own: I have a Nexus 5 that's nearly 5 years old now that my kids use daily. It's using a stock Lineage ROM. The battery certainly isn't the best anymore, but the phone doesn't feel different than the day I bought it, and it doesn't crash.
greedo 9y ago
Android does/did the same: https://plus.google.com/+YgorCortes/posts/CZ2GhoxgHk3 https://plus.google.com/+YgorCortes/posts/CZ2GhoxgHk3
- kleptco 9y ago
  Good point, must of helped Google sell another dozen of them. Thats what makes this whole thing creepy, how many iPhones did this scheme sell for Apple - I imagine a non-trivial number.

bb88 9y ago

nitpick: "ignorance" puts the blame on the consumer -- in this case it's not their fault. > should have an appropriate remedy I think a lawsuit is appropriate.

rlanday 9y ago

> even though millions of similar batteries in Android phones apparently didn't require a similar secret performance degradation You know for sure how the power-management code works in every Android device ever produced?

JesseObrien 9y ago
> we are still a long way from reaching the depths that Apple can go to before Apple fans will seriously consider an alternative. You're literally proving the point here. There's much, much more transparency on the Android side of things. Custom ROMs and the stock Google Android images have been combed over for almost the last decade by loads of different individuals and groups around the world. Now, we surely don't control the Samsung-esque bloatware that they slap on top of stock Android, but there's absolutely no way there's throttling code that lives in Android that we don't know about yet. Anecdotal evidence of my own: I have a Nexus 5 that's nearly 5 years old now that my kids use daily. It's using a stock Lineage ROM. The battery certainly isn't the best anymore, but the phone doesn't feel different than the day I bought it, and it doesn't crash.

greedo 9y ago

Android does/did the same: https://plus.google.com/+YgorCortes/posts/CZ2GhoxgHk3 https://plus.google.com/+YgorCortes/posts/CZ2GhoxgHk3

kleptco 9y ago
Good point, must of helped Google sell another dozen of them. Thats what makes this whole thing creepy, how many iPhones did this scheme sell for Apple - I imagine a non-trivial number.