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> people are 10x more sensetive than other platforms that have all the same issues. To be fair it's because they charge 3-4x what other platforms charge (the o

by ProAm 9y ago

> people are 10x more sensetive than other platforms that have all the same issues. To be fair it's because they charge 3-4x what other platforms charge (the ones that do) and use to have a slogan saying "It just works". People paid the Apple tax because they didnt have to deal with these issues and now they do and still pay the Apple tax.

carterehsmith 9y ago
>> they charge 3-4x what other platforms charge Wait... where is this 3-4x number coming from? Are there any examples?
- chaostheory 9y ago
  ProAm is probably referring to desktops. I don't feel it's hard to get something equivalent or very near equivalent in power to a Mac Pro and spending 3x less. When it comes to laptops, the Apple tax is only about 2x more unless you compare it to an MS Surface Laptop which is about equal in price and quality.
  - ProAm 9y ago
    Yes I was mainly referring to desktop and laptops. Phones were mostly in the 2x range for a longtime until other companies began to push their 'flagship' phones at high prices as well. I've never been an Apple person but I used to recommend Apple to my non-technical friends and family and say, 'Your going to pay a bit more but not have to worry about it not working, getting viruses (back when this was an issue), etc...' but I don't feel that way anymore.
    - carterehsmith 9y ago
      Sure, so where is this 3-4x coming from? We would all love to have something comparable to MBP for 1/4 the price, but.. where is it?
      - nl 9y ago
        Xiaomi Mi Air 12, 13 and 15.
        carterehsmith 9y ago
        Hmm that does not seem to be fighting the MBP... more like fighting the $1000-$1300 HPs, Dells, and so on E.g. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro/2 http://www.techradar.com/reviews/xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro/2
        nl 9y ago
        Well it’s a windows laptop, so yes they say what else you can get that is directly comparable. It’s the price of the midrange Windows laptops, but the specs and build quality of the MacBooks. The downside is Windows of course. But it is supposed to work pretty well under Linux.
        carterehsmith 9y ago
        >> It’s the price of the midrange Windows laptops, but the specs and build quality of the MacBooks. "specs and build quality of the MacBooks"? Great, can we see that mythical laptop that is 3-4x cheaper than equivalently-specced MBP or not? Url? Or is it just empty talk?
        nl 9y ago
        Why the hostility? I think it’s more like 2.5 to 3 times cheaper than 3 to 4, but it’s pretty easy to find. A$1400: https://www.lightinthebox.com/xiaomi-laptop-15-6-inch-intel-i7-quad-core-16gb-ram-256gb-ssd-hard-disk-windows10-mx150-2gb_p6220537.html?prm=1.5.1 https://www.lightinthebox.com/xiaomi-laptop-15-6-inch-intel-.... Vs A$3500: https://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MPTR2X/A&step=config# https://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MP... (with weaker CPU and GPU)
        9y ago

by ProAm 9y ago

carterehsmith 9y ago

>> they charge 3-4x what other platforms charge Wait... where is this 3-4x number coming from? Are there any examples?

chaostheory 9y ago
ProAm is probably referring to desktops. I don't feel it's hard to get something equivalent or very near equivalent in power to a Mac Pro and spending 3x less. When it comes to laptops, the Apple tax is only about 2x more unless you compare it to an MS Surface Laptop which is about equal in price and quality.
- ProAm 9y ago
  Yes I was mainly referring to desktop and laptops. Phones were mostly in the 2x range for a longtime until other companies began to push their 'flagship' phones at high prices as well. I've never been an Apple person but I used to recommend Apple to my non-technical friends and family and say, 'Your going to pay a bit more but not have to worry about it not working, getting viruses (back when this was an issue), etc...' but I don't feel that way anymore.
  - carterehsmith 9y ago
    Sure, so where is this 3-4x coming from? We would all love to have something comparable to MBP for 1/4 the price, but.. where is it?
    - nl 9y ago
      Xiaomi Mi Air 12, 13 and 15.
      - carterehsmith 9y ago
        Hmm that does not seem to be fighting the MBP... more like fighting the $1000-$1300 HPs, Dells, and so on E.g. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro/2 http://www.techradar.com/reviews/xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro/2
        nl 9y ago
        Well it’s a windows laptop, so yes they say what else you can get that is directly comparable. It’s the price of the midrange Windows laptops, but the specs and build quality of the MacBooks. The downside is Windows of course. But it is supposed to work pretty well under Linux.
        carterehsmith 9y ago
        >> It’s the price of the midrange Windows laptops, but the specs and build quality of the MacBooks. "specs and build quality of the MacBooks"? Great, can we see that mythical laptop that is 3-4x cheaper than equivalently-specced MBP or not? Url? Or is it just empty talk?
        nl 9y ago
        Why the hostility? I think it’s more like 2.5 to 3 times cheaper than 3 to 4, but it’s pretty easy to find. A$1400: https://www.lightinthebox.com/xiaomi-laptop-15-6-inch-intel-i7-quad-core-16gb-ram-256gb-ssd-hard-disk-windows10-mx150-2gb_p6220537.html?prm=1.5.1 https://www.lightinthebox.com/xiaomi-laptop-15-6-inch-intel-.... Vs A$3500: https://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MPTR2X/A&step=config# https://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MP... (with weaker CPU and GPU)
        9y ago