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A good group project with people who are mature enough to handle someone's expression of vulnerability without judgement might be what keeps them in the class.

A good group project with people who are mature enough to handle someone's expression of vulnerability without judgement might be what keeps them in the class. If you reject someone over an expression of doubt, it was never about the doubt.

harlanji 9y ago
The one grayed down comment. I agree whole heartedly.
- peoplewindow 9y ago
  It's by a shadowbanned account. You'd need to have showdead on to see it.
greenrd 9y ago
The reality of group projects is that all too often, one person ends up doing most of the real work. Group projects don't need to be more infantilising, they need to be more "shape up or ship out!"
- watwut 9y ago
  It is not infantilizing to accept expression of doubt or some kind of negative feeling. People have opinions and feelings and sometimes express them. Getting scared of that and yelling "shape up or ship out" is as immature as stopping the work altogether because of it. Also, in my experience, the people who express such feelings are the ones who tend to be willing to do a lot of work and also the boring work needed to finish the thing. The one person doing all the work in group project imo, is because group projects are quite dumb exercises. It has little to do how real cooperation in just a little competently managed work works and keeps more hardworking people hostage to lazy ones. Regardless of whether it is lazy or hardworking who is more open about his state of mind. It has nothing to do with infantilization - many adults in same situation will slack, because that is how incentives are lined up.
111_1_111 9y ago
> A good group project with people who are mature enough to handle someone's expression of vulnerability without judgement might be what keeps them in the class. Yeah, and a bad group project with somebody who is dumb enough to express their vulnerability to me might be what drags my grade from an A to a B. > If you reject someone over an expression of doubt, it was never about the doubt. I hope you realize that this is meaningless nonsense.

harlanji 9y ago

The one grayed down comment. I agree whole heartedly.

peoplewindow 9y ago
It's by a shadowbanned account. You'd need to have showdead on to see it.

greenrd 9y ago

The reality of group projects is that all too often, one person ends up doing most of the real work. Group projects don't need to be more infantilising, they need to be more "shape up or ship out!"

watwut 9y ago
It is not infantilizing to accept expression of doubt or some kind of negative feeling. People have opinions and feelings and sometimes express them. Getting scared of that and yelling "shape up or ship out" is as immature as stopping the work altogether because of it. Also, in my experience, the people who express such feelings are the ones who tend to be willing to do a lot of work and also the boring work needed to finish the thing. The one person doing all the work in group project imo, is because group projects are quite dumb exercises. It has little to do how real cooperation in just a little competently managed work works and keeps more hardworking people hostage to lazy ones. Regardless of whether it is lazy or hardworking who is more open about his state of mind. It has nothing to do with infantilization - many adults in same situation will slack, because that is how incentives are lined up.

111_1_111 9y ago

> A good group project with people who are mature enough to handle someone's expression of vulnerability without judgement might be what keeps them in the class. Yeah, and a bad group project with somebody who is dumb enough to express their vulnerability to me might be what drags my grade from an A to a B. > If you reject someone over an expression of doubt, it was never about the doubt. I hope you realize that this is meaningless nonsense.