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The way I comment here is not really how I relay this information to people IRL, especially because I'm very aware and sensitive to their health situation at th
by aviv 9y ago
The way I comment here is not really how I relay this information to people IRL, especially because I'm very aware and sensitive to their health situation at the time. Here I know I'm going to get downvoted instantly, so I don't bother as much. Mostly threads like this frustrate me, because I know so many people can be helped but online communities shut down these types of discussions and people barely scroll all the way to the bottom to read the truth.
So anyway, I hear your feedback and agree with it. Offline I'm much more patient and I do make it a point to take my time and only slowly break the news to them that traditional medicine has been lying to them for so many years, coupled with real evidence and pointers as to the direction they should be looking at in evaluating what I just shared with them.
- grzm 9y ago> "The way I comment here is not really how I relay this information to people IRL" > "Offline I'm much more patient" I encourage you to behave more like you do in real life here on HN. Much of what has unfortunately become accepted as discourse on many forums does serious damage to actual meaningful discussion. If that's not what you're interested in, please just refrain from commenting. Many on HN, for all it's faults, are trying for something better than average, even if we don't always succeed. People are still people, regardless of where you're encountering them.
- aviv 9y agoWell, IRL people would give some verbal feedback before they dismiss my suggestion. In HN, they just downvote and walk away. And I have, so far I answered every comment, including the physician who wanted links to "proof", whatever that may be. After all, who really benefits from finding proof that water fast cures illnesses that otherwise require a lifelong regimen of medication and doctor visits?
- grzm 9y agoPerhaps there's some chicken/egg going on here? On HN, members will downvote based on tone as well as message because many do value civil discourse and recognize that regardless of the value of the substance, the manner in which a member communicates that substance can drag HN down. And deciding not to couch your comments as constructively as possible is much more likely to result in downvotes, if that's what you're concerned about. You've gotten plenty of feedback in this thread. If you have a message you want to convey, it's in your best interested to also convey it in a manner that has the best possible chance of being accepted. If you've already decided that's not worth the effort, it's probably not worth the effort to comment at all.
- aviv 9y agoI agree, I may come off as a troll. I get your point. It's too bad if I do though, my intention is to point people in a direction that will help them and one that they've likely never come across before because no one in the traditional medical world will ever suggest this as a viable option. I will make it a point to phrase my comments differently in the next health-related thread.
- opportune 9y agoI've worked in healthcare tech before and one thing we didn't need was more people claiming you could solve every problem with some random FOTM untested medical method that doesn't hold up to scientific scrutiny. No need to make yourself out to be some sort of scientific martyr. If you can't do people here the justice of backing up your comments, don't comment and then complain about getting down voted
- aviv 9y agoI did back it up. Again, remember, there is not much "science" to back it up - because universities and pharmas have such little incentive to studying what may prove to render the medical world useless. Think about it. Why would they study it? If it doesn't work - anyway no one believed it. If it does - all their patented work becomes unncessary for many diseases. So you are left with real life people who have seen success. And there are plenty once you open your eyes.