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Because before apple came along, batteries were considered the consumable and were user replaceable. Now apple wants the whole phone to be the consumable. This

Because before apple came along, batteries were considered the consumable and were user replaceable. Now apple wants the whole phone to be the consumable. This not good for users nor the planet. Only people who would want a marginally thiner phone in exchange for buying a new one every year and apple's profit margins benefit.

lostmsu 9y ago
I fail to see why is it relevant to the current issue. Its not like you know 100% that if the battery would be swappable easily, they would suddenly decide to tell you instead of silently slowing the phones down. Honestly, it feels like people, who have grudge on manufacturers for making non-swappable battery, just need an excuse to bring the swapping topic afloat. It is also important not to affect any potential lawsuits against Apple by implying, that swapping batteries on affected phones would solve the problem. Because it would not: Apple should also cover damages to people, who had to buy new iPhones after being misguided.
- mmjaa 9y ago
  The point is that we wouldn't have a need for these slow-downs if we could just replace the batteries ourselves. The whole thing is geared to make Apple more money, and consumers stupider.
  - lostmsu 9y ago
    I understand your point, but now you can see how my fear of talking battery replacements came true. Probably millions of people bought new iPhones this year because they were deceived. Next day after my comment and all the discussions Apple announces they will make replacements cheaper. But those millions are still basically f*cked. And Apple will get away with it because most people complained about replaceability of the battery, while the only real issue is straight up illegal deception. Talking about battery swappability only serves Apple by driving conversation away from it. They will never make battery swappable unless there's a regulation to force it.
    - mmjaa 9y ago
      They're going to have to suffer some way, before they'll change their attitude. And they've got a few billions of dollars worth of buffer between them, and suffering, so .. you may indeed be right. Lets see.
    - ddlsmurf 9y ago
      I disagree this is "straight up illegal deception", in fact, I find the slowing down perfectly rational and a desirable feature. The problem isn't the slowing down, but it is shining light on the irreplaceability, which IMHO is the true crime against the planet. That our legal infrastructures haven't caught up to it is irrelevant, planned obsolescence is a cancer, and if this is the only time people will notice, damn straight I'll use it
      - lostmsu 9y ago
        It's quite selfish to assume what's OK for you is ok for everyone else in a same situation.
        ddlsmurf 9y ago
        It is, but I don't think I did here. I'm saying it's bad for the planet because of the ecological cost of making an iphone being artificially pinned to that for a battery, in spite of their having very different lifetimes. If people in general thought those lifetimes should be equal, there would be no uproar to this revelation (the slowing down thing).

lostmsu 9y ago

I fail to see why is it relevant to the current issue. Its not like you know 100% that if the battery would be swappable easily, they would suddenly decide to tell you instead of silently slowing the phones down. Honestly, it feels like people, who have grudge on manufacturers for making non-swappable battery, just need an excuse to bring the swapping topic afloat. It is also important not to affect any potential lawsuits against Apple by implying, that swapping batteries on affected phones would solve the problem. Because it would not: Apple should also cover damages to people, who had to buy new iPhones after being misguided.

mmjaa 9y ago
The point is that we wouldn't have a need for these slow-downs if we could just replace the batteries ourselves. The whole thing is geared to make Apple more money, and consumers stupider.
- lostmsu 9y ago
  I understand your point, but now you can see how my fear of talking battery replacements came true. Probably millions of people bought new iPhones this year because they were deceived. Next day after my comment and all the discussions Apple announces they will make replacements cheaper. But those millions are still basically f*cked. And Apple will get away with it because most people complained about replaceability of the battery, while the only real issue is straight up illegal deception. Talking about battery swappability only serves Apple by driving conversation away from it. They will never make battery swappable unless there's a regulation to force it.
  - mmjaa 9y ago
    They're going to have to suffer some way, before they'll change their attitude. And they've got a few billions of dollars worth of buffer between them, and suffering, so .. you may indeed be right. Lets see.
  - ddlsmurf 9y ago
    I disagree this is "straight up illegal deception", in fact, I find the slowing down perfectly rational and a desirable feature. The problem isn't the slowing down, but it is shining light on the irreplaceability, which IMHO is the true crime against the planet. That our legal infrastructures haven't caught up to it is irrelevant, planned obsolescence is a cancer, and if this is the only time people will notice, damn straight I'll use it
    - lostmsu 9y ago
      It's quite selfish to assume what's OK for you is ok for everyone else in a same situation.
      - ddlsmurf 9y ago
        It is, but I don't think I did here. I'm saying it's bad for the planet because of the ecological cost of making an iphone being artificially pinned to that for a battery, in spite of their having very different lifetimes. If people in general thought those lifetimes should be equal, there would be no uproar to this revelation (the slowing down thing).