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> Compared to men, women litter less, recycle more, and leave a smaller carbon footprint. I hope it's true statistically, because I'll call bullshit on that an

by jotm 9y ago

> Compared to men, women litter less, recycle more, and leave a smaller carbon footprint. I hope it's true statistically, because I'll call bullshit on that any day. > men may shun eco-friendly behavior because of what it conveys about their masculinity Instead of inventing roundabout descriptions, let's just call them what they are: close minded idiots.

jstanley 9y ago
Yes, men are close [sic] minded idiots. What a joyous, enlightened age we live in, where sexism is dead and there's peace and love for all.
- andy_ppp 9y ago
  I wish we’d stop defining people based on their being part of a statistical group. Judge, but judge people individually, based on evidence.
  - jotm 9y ago
    That's very inefficient and against human nature. After dealing with several individuals of a certain group, they will get assigned a rating, and any further interaction will either be welcome or undesirable, but if unavoidable, will be judged individually, still with a bias. Everyone does this, whether they admit it or not.
    - andy_ppp 9y ago
      Everyone has cognitive biases, yes; this podcast, which I direct you to specifically [1] has made me realise more readily the biases I have and allows me to attempt to correct for them. Just because it’s difficult doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing. [1] https://youarenotsosmart.com/podcast/ https://youarenotsosmart.com/podcast/
      - jotm 9y ago
        That looks interesting. I am painfully aware of how much dumber and slower I am than other people, profiling is what I choose to do because it's easier. Stone me if you want, I don't have long to live anyway.
        andy_ppp 9y ago
        That’s terrible to hear jotm, I hope you have people to talk to and if not my email is in my profile. Maybe there is some esoteric treatment worth a punt... still worth hunting around for a second opinion and emailing a few universities.
- stcredzero 9y ago
  Yes, men are close [sic] minded idiots. What a joyous, enlightened age we live in, where sexism is dead and there's peace and love for all. That's the genius of the extreme left. Before, there was a universal principle-based definition of sexism. By re-defining the term {sexism} so that it's only something that one particular gender does to another, they've eliminated by redefinition almost 50% of all {sexism}, converting whole categories of bigotry based on in-born characteristics into virtuousness.
- jotm 9y ago
  People who view being eco-friendly as unmanly are idiots, I don't care what gender they are.
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ZeroGravitas 9y ago
It's probably a complicated philosophical question as to whether someone who litters is an idiot. I mean they're saving themselves effort at the expense of other people ("That makes me smart" to quote the president). Immoral probably fits better in these cases.
booleandilemma 9y ago
I feel like I’m always seeing studies that assert women are somehow “better” than men. Has anyone else noticed this trend? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/amy-jo-martin/study-companies-with-stro_b_9079720.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/amy-jo-martin/study-companies... https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600812/female-coders-are-more-competent-than-males-according-to-a-new-study/amp/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600812/female-coders-are-... http://amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4430721/compromise-women-men-decision http://amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4430721/compromise-women-m... https://venturebeat.com/2015/01/27/study-girls-outperform-boys-in-math-and-science-all-over-the-world/amp/ https://venturebeat.com/2015/01/27/study-girls-outperform-bo...
- throwd7719 9y ago
  These are like the chocolate/wine/coffee-are-good-for-you studies. They make people feel good and want to share them. Studies saying that men are better at certain things would not evoke the same pride and sharing urge in this cultural moment, at least among the desired demographic.
- ashwinaj 9y ago
  Yes. I really am puzzled by articles denigrating men. If I were an alien from another planet I would wonder why men even exist if I were to read all such articles (Yes I know men are only good for reproduction). Sure there are a lot of bad/evil/despicable men out there as there are a lot of women (you can downvote me, but it doesn't change reality). Let's take a recent example, it is a known fact that Trump doesn't respect women that much; yet the reason he won the presidency is perpetuated by the media as, he won because of the disenchanted 'white men'. Excuse me? 42% of women voted for him, this isn't a trivial percentage like a statistical error. Why isn't there any spotlight on this? This whole men vs women debate is just utter ridiculous (in most respects); call a spade a spade and don't resort to dog whistle tactics.
- Quanttek 9y ago
  I'm not sure what you're trying to imply here? Do you doubt their findings? I think everyone (esp us men) should be aware of the effects ̶p̶̶a̶̶t̶̶r̶̶i̶̶a̶̶r̶̶c̶̶h̶̶y̶ social constructs around masculinity can have on your behavior.

by jotm 9y ago

jstanley 9y ago

Yes, men are close [sic] minded idiots. What a joyous, enlightened age we live in, where sexism is dead and there's peace and love for all.

andy_ppp 9y ago
I wish we’d stop defining people based on their being part of a statistical group. Judge, but judge people individually, based on evidence.
- jotm 9y ago
  That's very inefficient and against human nature. After dealing with several individuals of a certain group, they will get assigned a rating, and any further interaction will either be welcome or undesirable, but if unavoidable, will be judged individually, still with a bias. Everyone does this, whether they admit it or not.
  - andy_ppp 9y ago
    Everyone has cognitive biases, yes; this podcast, which I direct you to specifically [1] has made me realise more readily the biases I have and allows me to attempt to correct for them. Just because it’s difficult doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing. [1] https://youarenotsosmart.com/podcast/ https://youarenotsosmart.com/podcast/
    - jotm 9y ago
      That looks interesting. I am painfully aware of how much dumber and slower I am than other people, profiling is what I choose to do because it's easier. Stone me if you want, I don't have long to live anyway.
      - andy_ppp 9y ago
        That’s terrible to hear jotm, I hope you have people to talk to and if not my email is in my profile. Maybe there is some esoteric treatment worth a punt... still worth hunting around for a second opinion and emailing a few universities.
stcredzero 9y ago
Yes, men are close [sic] minded idiots. What a joyous, enlightened age we live in, where sexism is dead and there's peace and love for all. That's the genius of the extreme left. Before, there was a universal principle-based definition of sexism. By re-defining the term {sexism} so that it's only something that one particular gender does to another, they've eliminated by redefinition almost 50% of all {sexism}, converting whole categories of bigotry based on in-born characteristics into virtuousness.
jotm 9y ago
People who view being eco-friendly as unmanly are idiots, I don't care what gender they are.

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ZeroGravitas 9y ago

It's probably a complicated philosophical question as to whether someone who litters is an idiot. I mean they're saving themselves effort at the expense of other people ("That makes me smart" to quote the president). Immoral probably fits better in these cases.

booleandilemma 9y ago

I feel like I’m always seeing studies that assert women are somehow “better” than men. Has anyone else noticed this trend? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/amy-jo-martin/study-companies-with-stro_b_9079720.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/amy-jo-martin/study-companies... https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600812/female-coders-are-more-competent-than-males-according-to-a-new-study/amp/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600812/female-coders-are-... http://amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4430721/compromise-women-men-decision http://amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4430721/compromise-women-m... https://venturebeat.com/2015/01/27/study-girls-outperform-boys-in-math-and-science-all-over-the-world/amp/ https://venturebeat.com/2015/01/27/study-girls-outperform-bo...

throwd7719 9y ago
These are like the chocolate/wine/coffee-are-good-for-you studies. They make people feel good and want to share them. Studies saying that men are better at certain things would not evoke the same pride and sharing urge in this cultural moment, at least among the desired demographic.
ashwinaj 9y ago
Yes. I really am puzzled by articles denigrating men. If I were an alien from another planet I would wonder why men even exist if I were to read all such articles (Yes I know men are only good for reproduction). Sure there are a lot of bad/evil/despicable men out there as there are a lot of women (you can downvote me, but it doesn't change reality). Let's take a recent example, it is a known fact that Trump doesn't respect women that much; yet the reason he won the presidency is perpetuated by the media as, he won because of the disenchanted 'white men'. Excuse me? 42% of women voted for him, this isn't a trivial percentage like a statistical error. Why isn't there any spotlight on this? This whole men vs women debate is just utter ridiculous (in most respects); call a spade a spade and don't resort to dog whistle tactics.
Quanttek 9y ago
I'm not sure what you're trying to imply here? Do you doubt their findings? I think everyone (esp us men) should be aware of the effects ̶p̶̶a̶̶t̶̶r̶̶i̶̶a̶̶r̶̶c̶̶h̶̶y̶ social constructs around masculinity can have on your behavior.