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So looks like they were right when they said it would encourage innovation. Go figure.
by isaac_is_goat 9y ago
So looks like they were right when they said it would encourage innovation. Go figure.
- Chaebixi 9y agoSome "innovation" is a waste of resources. Specifically, the innovation required to work around broken policy.
- turc1656 9y agoOr fixing an already solved problem. Using a VPN addresses basically everything they are trying to fix.
- runako 9y agoISPs can trivially prioritize content from preferred providers while throttling all other traffic, including VPN traffic. VPNs do not solve this problem.
- turc1656 9y agoyeah but all your internet traffic would then be throttled. Not just certain services. Using a VPN essentially takes away everything from them and reduces their only tool to a hammer and forcing everything to look like a nail. There is no granularity. All your traffic goes to one location. They can't see what it is or what the final endpoint is because of encryption. So they can't use it to build a profile/data on you to sell. They can't inject ads into HTML or block services that compete with their own, or even grant privileged speeds to approved or preferred services. They basically are forced into a Shakespearean "to throttle or not to throttle" binary choice.
- runako 9y agoThat's true, but in practice most consumers wouldn't notice. That's because the whitelisted services would most likely include those data-hungry services used most frequently by consumers: Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Facebook, etc. which are operated by big providers. This was how Comcast operated in ca. 2013. The bet is ISPs would be very comfortable throttling traffic, as long as whitelisted services were not affected. (They see this as a revenue generator, because they can sell fast-lane access to companies who don't want their customers' bandwidth throttled.) ISPs that go this route will likely offer a (consumer-paid) option to allow VPN traffic to use the fast lane.
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- wav-part 9y agoEven without vpn, if non-preferred takes most of the bandwidth for a user, it will be apparent to him that he is getting less speed than what he paid for.
- SmirkingRevenge 9y agoAnd per the new (lack of) rules, all they have to do is carve out exceptions for vpn traffic in their consumer SLA. The FCC cant do anything nor can the FTC, so long as they aren't blatantly falsely advertising. What are you going to do if you don't like it? Switch providers? They aren't going to let such am easy work around get in their way.
- techpop10 9y agoIsn't that a description of Uber?
- bluntfang 9y agoAnd look at what's happening.
- pavel_lishin 9y ago"Our town's window repairmen are going to kickstart our economy thanks to this plucky child with a stone!"
- DerpyBaby123 9y agoIt seems more like breakng a window just to call fixing it 'inonvation' to me [1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
- brndnmtthws 9y agoI don't think creating arbitrary pricing tiers to milk your customers and pad the bottom line counts as 'innovation'.