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Wow, there is so much space around Berlin I don’t even know where to start with this, there’s even an airstrip in town still. I know it’s a park now but serious

Wow, there is so much space around Berlin I don’t even know where to start with this, there’s even an airstrip in town still. I know it’s a park now but seriously of all the major cities I’ve lived in building a new airport should be relatively easy... unless it’s a conscious decision to prefer the train? Tegel is horrible but it’s also really quick - you can and I have arrived 30mins before a flight and make it just fine. Oh BER looks like the rarest of things, a German construction disaster! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport

zimzam 9y ago
The Berlin mention is a reference to the Brandenburg airport which has been under construction since 2006 and was scheduled to be completed in 2012. They are now hoping to open in 2020 or 2021. http://madridjournals.com/2017/12/14/berlins-money-guzzling-airport-could-open-8-years-overdue-with-prefab-metal-box-for-terminal/ http://madridjournals.com/2017/12/14/berlins-money-guzzling-...
- andy_ppp 9y ago
  Yes as I was checking the spelling of Tegel I came across the Brandenburg airport information and linked to it above. It makes Terminal 5 look fast and flawless by comparison!
  - caoilte 9y ago
    Terminal 5 was fast and flawless (until the day it opened and the airline computer systems fell over). Then again, it is a giant metal shed. Now Crossrail, THAT'S something.
    - ant6n 9y ago
      Indeed: Heathrow has 75M annual passengers, crossrail will have 200M
    - poooogles 9y ago
      >Now Crossrail, THAT'S something. On time and on budget. Yet they still won't give the green light for Crossrail 2.
    - willyt 9y ago
      T5 took over 20 years after it was started in earnest.
geezerjay 9y ago
> Wow, there is so much space around Berlin And how do you expect to move people from that empty space into Berlin? People aren't happy to be flown 50 miles outside the city. When that happens, all those flights coming and going into that enpty space end up addin an extra couple of hours to the travel time. To make matters worse, that empty space tends to be connected with city centers by.... Train.
- ant6n 9y ago
  Fun fact: there's a single train that serves the already completed train station under the not completed BER airport -- the tunnels were designed with the assumption of some air flow coming from the trains. Now that single empty run ensures the tunnels don't mold.
  - andy_ppp 9y ago
    Haha that's amazing, as a kind of thank you how about this: I overheard on the Bakerloo line two Transport for London employees talking about safetly and one pipes up and says "of course most of the inside of the Bakerloo line is covered in asbestos, they have to spray the inside of the line with glue every year and check the air quality - it can't ever be removed of course - as soon as you disturbed it you'd be completely fucked". I try to avoid the Bakerloo line these days...
isostatic 9y ago
Tegal's great. Seatbeltnoff to Brandenburg gate in 30 minutes. Taxi to plane in under 5. Manchester t3 isn't too bad - I've left a taxi with 15 minutes before take off on a couple of occasions with no problems.

zimzam 9y ago

The Berlin mention is a reference to the Brandenburg airport which has been under construction since 2006 and was scheduled to be completed in 2012. They are now hoping to open in 2020 or 2021. http://madridjournals.com/2017/12/14/berlins-money-guzzling-airport-could-open-8-years-overdue-with-prefab-metal-box-for-terminal/ http://madridjournals.com/2017/12/14/berlins-money-guzzling-...

andy_ppp 9y ago
Yes as I was checking the spelling of Tegel I came across the Brandenburg airport information and linked to it above. It makes Terminal 5 look fast and flawless by comparison!
- caoilte 9y ago
  Terminal 5 was fast and flawless (until the day it opened and the airline computer systems fell over). Then again, it is a giant metal shed. Now Crossrail, THAT'S something.
  - ant6n 9y ago
    Indeed: Heathrow has 75M annual passengers, crossrail will have 200M
  - poooogles 9y ago
    >Now Crossrail, THAT'S something. On time and on budget. Yet they still won't give the green light for Crossrail 2.
  - willyt 9y ago
    T5 took over 20 years after it was started in earnest.

geezerjay 9y ago

> Wow, there is so much space around Berlin And how do you expect to move people from that empty space into Berlin? People aren't happy to be flown 50 miles outside the city. When that happens, all those flights coming and going into that enpty space end up addin an extra couple of hours to the travel time. To make matters worse, that empty space tends to be connected with city centers by.... Train.

ant6n 9y ago
Fun fact: there's a single train that serves the already completed train station under the not completed BER airport -- the tunnels were designed with the assumption of some air flow coming from the trains. Now that single empty run ensures the tunnels don't mold.
- andy_ppp 9y ago
  Haha that's amazing, as a kind of thank you how about this: I overheard on the Bakerloo line two Transport for London employees talking about safetly and one pipes up and says "of course most of the inside of the Bakerloo line is covered in asbestos, they have to spray the inside of the line with glue every year and check the air quality - it can't ever be removed of course - as soon as you disturbed it you'd be completely fucked". I try to avoid the Bakerloo line these days...

isostatic 9y ago

Tegal's great. Seatbeltnoff to Brandenburg gate in 30 minutes. Taxi to plane in under 5. Manchester t3 isn't too bad - I've left a taxi with 15 minutes before take off on a couple of occasions with no problems.