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I think that for airlines that want to differentiate on comfort/quality, the A380 is a must-have: You can pimp up the interior of a 787 as much as you want, it
by namdnay 9y ago
I think that for airlines that want to differentiate on comfort/quality, the A380 is a must-have: You can pimp up the interior of a 787 as much as you want, it will never be as comfortable as what you can do with an A380 (see my other comment on the Emirates A380).
However this segment probably isn't big enough to justify such an expensive production line...
@frik - for some reason you are "dead" - no-one can see your comments since 5 days ago. Edit: now you're not! Congratulations I guess?
- code4tee 9y agoI’ve flown just about every commercial model of airplane made in the last 30 years including Emirates A380 biz class. While that was undoubtedly an amazing trip, it had a lot more to do with the airline than the airplane. My enthusiasm for the trip also dropped off when I had to spend several hours waiting around in the middle of the night at their hub in Dubai.
- namdnay 9y agoYes! See my other comment - the DXB stopover is their Achilles heel I think.
- oblio 9y agoWhy? What happened in Dubai?
- personlurking 9y agoProbably has to do with the way airlines schedule their flights, depending on the final destination and direction. Sometimes you'll catch a flight and can't make a connecting flight for several hours. How Airlines Schedule Flights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGXahSnA_oA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGXahSnA_oA
- nhf 9y agoMany flights in Dubai happen late at night / very early morning due to a combination of time zone alignment and daytime heat making it harder to service large planes.
- dmfdmf 9y agoIt could be fueling issues. I once had a Summer flight which was suppose to be direct from Athens to NYC that had to make a pitstop at Heathrow for fuel. It was so hot in Greece they couldn't fit enough fuel on board to jump the pond without a top off.
- arnon 9y agoI've never heard of that before, and I've taken flights out of Israel in 43°C weather. Could just be a 'fuel price' thing
- startupdiscuss 9y agoBut the segment has an outsized impact on revenue. Say a business class ticket for a transatlantic flight is 5x an economy and a first class ticket is 10x an economy. And the plane, of course, is largely fixed costs.
- TremendousJudge 9y agoThe business seats on a plane make more money than the economy seats. However, there aren't lines where you can fill a whole plane of business: economy is there mostly to fill up space
- namdnay 9y agoThere are some, but they're very rare. One example is the BA shuttle between London City and New York - only business. I believe there is a French airline doing a "cheap business" Paris-New York as well.
- mpweiher 9y agoAlso the new Boom supersonic jet is intended to be all business class seats (around 60, IIRC).
- ghaff 9y agoI'm not holding my breath for any of these supersonic jet projects to come to market. But, if they do, I expect the nominally "business" or "first" class seating will be more like domestic business today than typical international business class--as was the case with the Concorde.
- markonen 9y agoThat’s Boom’s business plan explicitly. Cut down the flight time to a couple of hours and you don’t need to offer a bed, making the per seat cost comparable.
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- frik 9y agoI cannot upvote you enough, it's true. A380 is in its own league, super comfortable, super low noise. No 747, 777 or 787 can match the comfort. They are noisier, or have downsides.
- _Codemonkeyism 9y agoExactly, when flying economy I always try to get an A380. 747 is the most painful plane there is in economy.
- rconti 9y agoLufthansa economy on the A380 is the best, if you can get one of the upper deck seats, particularly a window seat where you have a massive storage console/armrest between you and the window.