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34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams
- jarmitage 9y agoAnyone got a link to the schedule?
- tazjin 9y agohttps://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/ https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/
- NiklasMort 9y agohttps://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/ https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/
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- bsod90 9y agohttps://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/ https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/
- louithethrid 9y agoRecommend: Dude, you broke the Future!
- d33 9y agoI was on the talk and I found it boring at best. What did you like about it?
- louithethrid 9y agoTreating cooperations like paper-clip optimizers who try to hack ones brain sounds very reasonable.
- sillysaurus3 9y agoIs there an alternative? Corporations were invented. Could we invent something better? Or is it just human nature to devolve into the current state of affairs?
- louithethrid 9y agoThere could be a automatic break up mechanism after ten years.
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago> There could be a automatic break up mechanism after ten years What do you do with the assets? Liquidate them? If so, you’ll just periodically kick out minority shareholders (or promote consolidation).
- beefield 9y ago> Could we invent something better? How about making just a small tweak to the limited liability corporation legislation/rules? Currently the main purpose of a corporation is to maximize the (long term) shareholder value. What if the purpose was to maximize the long term goods sold, taxes paid or salaries paid instead? Note that you would still need to pay a decent return to shareholders in order to maximize these other things, just like currently you need (usually) to sell goods, pay a salary and pay your taxes to maximize the shareholder value. (This may sound like a joke, but I am actually serious. Nobody has been able to justify so that I would have understood why it is the common stock holders whose value a corporation maximizes instead of other stakeholders. After all, the original reason limited liability was invented was to enable projects that bring good for the society, but are so damn risky that nobody is willing to take the full liability.)
- xyzzyz 9y agoNote that you would still need to pay a decent return to shareholders in order to maximize these other things, just like currently you need (usually) to sell goods, pay a salary and pay your taxes to maximize the shareholder value. No, you would still need to grow to a large company with lots of revenue, but if the metric to optimize is salaries paid, then paying shareholders anything at all is in direct conflict with paying salaries to workers. The problem here is designing set of incentives that would encourage appropriate results, and the difficulty is that not all incentives work equally well, or even at all.
- ginko 9y agoI found the corporation/AI comparison rather insightful.
- tqdm 9y agoBoth are basically optimization processes that yield considerable risk and that are tricky to regulate, but in case of cooperations you still have the human element: vulnerability/fallibility, social reputation/integration, slowness/interpretability, empathy. The best policies to mitigating the respective risks probably are quite different.
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- Tepix 9y agoI liked it as well. If you missed a talk they are at https://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive https://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive This particular talk by Charles Stross is at https://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive/9270 https://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive/9270
- weinzierl 9y agoI don't have much time this year, but the two talks I intend to watch are Squeezing a key through a carry bit by Filippo Valsorda [1] and LatticeHacks by Tanja Lange, Nadia Heninger and djb[2]. EDIT: Just saw that there is a talk by Maxim Goryachy and Mark Ermolov: Inside Intel Management Engine [3], can't miss that one. [1] https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/9021.html https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/9021.htm... [2] https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/9075.html https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/9075.htm... [3] https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/8762.html https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/8762.htm...
- tinus_hn 9y agoIf you’re interested in the Intel ME there’s another presentation about it: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/8782.html https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/8782.htm...
- FiloSottile 9y agoSpeaker of the first one here :) thanks! There’s a stream recording here while we wait for the video release: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive/9021 http://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive/9021 Let me know if anyone has questions.
- mino 9y agoThat's a great talk Filippo!
- zoe1337 9y agoThe Inside IME talk [3] was quite disappointing :(
- lifeisstillgood 9y agoMy question is how can the "advice" in CCC and other open investigations into state of the tech world be distilled into actionable things for "normal" techies?
- tazjin 9y agoWhat do you mean by "normal" techies? Everyone who is here is a "normal" techie. Sure, skill levels and focus areas vary but there's common shared interests. Actionable things come out of the conference when someone who listens to a talk starts thinking and discussing and forming ideas for starting or contributing to a project. There's no formula to guarantee "success" for that.
- sigi45 9y agoDon't do this. Most/ often enough the main difference between people is small. In this case 'someone who is going to the 34c3' vs. 'someone who is not'. Quite similiar 'someone who is doing a talk' vs. 'someone is not doing one'
- Steeeve 9y agoThe gamification talk currently going on is painting a very effective picture of China basically taking the most evil position possible with technology.
- Pica_soO 9y agoThere was a extra credit episode on that. Yes, that is purest evil. The sort that laughs alone, at night in front of a mirror, because even other evil shuns such company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI
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- StavrosK 9y agoDoes anyone know how you can actually attend? The talks look interesting and I'd like to look into going next year, but I spent a few minutes online and on their site, blog and wiki, and couldn't even find where the damn thing is, let alone a ticket website! It's like they don't want people discovering it, I can't figure out why they don't have a more accessible marketing website.
- rodavelino 9y agohttps://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/wiki/index.php/Static:Travel https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/wiki/index.php/Static:Tr...
- kzrdude 9y agoUsually you'll have to get a ticket a month in advance. I'm just speculating, but the conference already has a lot of attendees and maybe doesn't feel it gets better with more. And word of mouth seems to work pretty well.. That said: https://tickets.events.ccc.de/34c3/ https://tickets.events.ccc.de/34c3/
- StavrosK 9y agoYeah, if they're already oversubscribed it makes sense that bringing more people in would have zero benefit for them (unless they wanted to raise the price). Thanks for the link!
- kaybe 9y agoThe minimum ticket price is does not cover costs, but is available so everyone can come. Tickets are also sold at cost-covering level and on a donation basis. Almost all work is done by the participants (I think toilet cleaners are paid, but that's it) and there is very little sponsoring, so it works out. Not sure what more money would help with.
- _wmd 9y agoCCC is so heavily oversubscribed that there is an insane race every year when tickets are released, usually involving downtime for the ticketing app. If finding the app itself already presents too much effort for you (hint: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ccc%20tickets https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ccc%20tickets ), it's unlikely you'll succeed in acquiring a ticket. Your best bet is to source one through some affiliated group, if you know of one, otherwise spend a few hours familiarizing yourself with the ticket app, and have at least 2 browsers with at least 10 tabs each open on the app ready for the second a release happens
- krzyk 9y agoWill those be available to download after the conference?
- petermonsson 9y agoYes, you can even see the unedited replays
- mtgx 9y agoWould it be possible that maybe for next year they buy everyone much better microphones? You can barely hear what the speakers are saying.
- sigi45 9y agoHaven't listen to the live stream yet but in generall the audio is quite good. Also most/all of the talks will get subtitles.
- unixhero 9y agoA very good set of talks at the congress this year. There's something for everyone in there. Can't wait to watch the streams. Hope they are persisted.
- this_user 9y agoRaw dumps of the streams are usually uploaded within a few hours. Cleaned up versions will show up over the next couple of days.
- lawl 9y agoRaw dumps and timeshift are available immediately: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive http://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive Please use this instead of versions people are dumping on youtube and monetizing them and then the nicely cut versions not being found anymore because the algorithm thinks the official CCC version is a reupload.
- alexnewman 9y agoMore like raper fest. I can't believe how irresponsible this conference has become.
- bobjob 9y agoWhat are you talking about?
- beaugunderson 9y agohttps://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/the-ccc-men-who-hate-women.html https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/the-ccc-men-who-hate-wome...